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Birdshead 3.5 accuracy problem

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Old March 23rd, 2013, 01:23 PM   #16
 
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Try using the bottom of the sight as an aiming point. Also, get some paper plates and shoot a lot at 10'-20'-30' until you're happy. I think CAS targets are 18", so if you're on w/9" plates you should do just fine. I've never had any trouble with centering in any of my Rugers.
The handling/feel of the weight comparing the aluminum/blued steel with the stainless and heavier grips vs lighter can be interesting. My personal thought is the stainless are a little better with pointing in the shorter barrels due to the heavier grip frame. Also, the Hogue fat ebony grips can help add a little weight to the rear of the pistol as well. I am still looking for a stainless 3.5" .357 Birdshead to see how that feels with factory grips.
Here's a link to Hogue.
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Old March 23rd, 2013, 02:58 PM   #17
 
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Heh.. Them compadres is long gone by now.. Year old thread.

Welcome to the forum OldVaquero! After 10 posts you can post pics but meanwhile come hang out and enjoy ours!
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And thanks for the response!

I had the cylinders reamed and that helped.

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I just did mine, and throated the barrel too. We will see how much difference it makes. Fingers crossed..

There seems to be a silver lining in the fact that the majority of the .45 caliber cylinders seem to have very tight cylinder throats, used to be Ruger .45 cylinders could measure .489" at the rear, but I measured my stainless Vaquero cylinder (which had tight throats as well) and a .482" pin gauge would not go into the chamber.
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Taking the Boars head out on tuesday to see how all the work has fared. Will post a range report afterwords in the Boars Head thread.
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I need to mic the chamber mouths on my .45 convertible blackhawk.
I plan on using it as a range toy with ACP and as a hunting backup with Ruger Only .45 Colt loads.
It's a great gun for those times when I don't feel like lugging around the 7.5" Redhawk .44.
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My three Vaqueros.

Original Vaquero 5 1/2" (.45 Colt) , shot a bit high and to the left. Adjusted by opening up the rear sight (had no one to turn the barrel for me at the time). BTW, I had reamed the throats in this revolver after initial testing and reduced my group size in half before I made the adjustment to rear sight.

New Vaquero 5 1/2" (.45 Colt), shot low and left. Had the barrel turned and then filed the front sight to bring up. Almost overdid it as it shoots a tad high now, but that works out well at 70+ yards when only a bit high at 25Y. I reamed this after test shooting as it had small throats.

New Vaquero Sheriff (.44Spec), shot way to the left (2-3" at 10Y) and way high (4" at 10Y) with the Skeeter load. Had barrel turned and then used JB-Weld on front sight and then slowly filed to bring 'up' elevation. Now shoots right on at 25Y. Gratifying to lay sights on 77 yard target (little man silhouette steel target) and ping it with a shorty....

Can't stand a gun that doesn't shoot to POA . Also, like to standardize on one load (if possible), so not having different boxes of ammo for different guns sitting around. Must say though, I just don't shoot as accurately with the fixed sights as I do with the standard adjustable sights. Not sure why. Still fun though!
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..... Must say though, I just don't shoot as accurately with the fixed sights as I do with the standard adjustable sights. Not sure why. Still fun though!
Man, reading that sure make me feel better! Glad I'm not the only one. I love shooting my fixed sight guns but I do better with the adjustable sights too.
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rclark. Clinging bitterly to his obsolete single actions, just like the rest of us.

.44 Spl is my favorite round, but .45 Colt is bumping it in the butt.
Now that I own more than one of each, the two rounds are destined to become tied for first place in my list of favorite rounds.
The .45 Colt should be my favorite, since it'll do anything the .44 Spl does, and much more.
I guess it's not just about power.
I'll just call it a tie.

I can't tell if my .44 Spl flattop shoots to POA, since the only two rounds I've run through it were PMC 180 gr HP and Cor Bon 165 gr HP. Not exactly factory weight.

I have GOT to find some .45 Colt brass, so I can start loading for it. I have everything else I need for it.

Speaking of shooting more accurately with some guns than others, I don't shoot autos as accurately as I do revolvers.

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There are a couple of reasons that .45 Colt 'wins' in my mind. 1) Has been around since 1873 ... So lots of western history behind it. 2) It makes a slightly bigger hole than the .44 Special. 3) Appeals to my western side. The .44Spec doesn't 'quite' have that appeal as it was introduced in 1907. But it was a cartridge championed by Elmer Keith and others. You can push it a lot harder in the original sized SAAs too than the .45 Colt. Has the mystic of being a very accurate cartridge too (true or not). So while I like the .44 Special very much... the .45 Colt just edges it out. Hard to put into words Think of it this way... I CC my .44Special Bulldog in town.... But out of town, I turn to the .45 Colt on the belt....

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I own a Sherrif 44 spl. It shoots POA

But I love the 45 colt. I have a Dan Wesson with the 2.5 and 4 inch barrel in 44mag. But I want a 4 inch double action 45 colt.

I reload so i could get the ame performance out of the 44 mag, but its just not a 45 colt.
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Tell me about the holster. The logo appears to be a Milt Sparks; but I can't quite spy it out. Anyway, tell us a little more about it; make, model etc.

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