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Old October 31st, 2011, 06:43 PM   #1
 
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.454 in a .45LC Vaquero

Hi to the group. I've belonged to the forum for some time now, but this is my first posting

I actually have 2 related questions.

First, except for the bullet diameter, (.454" for the LC and .452" for the .454), the dimensions of the case and loaded rounds look identical. So, can a .454 be fired in a .45 LC firearm?
Second. I have an old model Vaquero in .45LC, can I safely shoot .454 rounds out of it. If the rounds don't chamber, can the Vaquero be chambered to handle both rounds.

I've seen references in the forum for Pinnacle, Pinnacle-Guns.com: Pinnacle High Performance Custom Gunsmithing
advertising .454 conversions for the Redhawk. I'm under the impression that the old model Vaquero is ainherently stronger than the Redhawk.

Any ideas or comments.

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Old October 31st, 2011, 06:53 PM   #2
 
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No to all your questions. The 454 works with much higher pressures thant the 45. The 454 is a magnamized 45 with the case longer so it won't chamber in a 45 Colt. Actually they use the same diameter bullet. The Redhawk is much stronger than the Vaquero and even the Redhawk won't handle the 454. You've got to step up to the Super Redhawk for a 454.
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Thanks 41Red. Well that clears it up, and I guess the site that had the case dimensions was wrong.

I know the .45 Vaquero can handle the hot Ruger loads so if I want some hot loads I can look up a safe hi pressure load in my reloading manuals.
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I think that not all .45 Vaquero can handle the really hot loads you have to check to see
if your model can.
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The .45 Colt Vaquero will handle Ruger Only Loads. The .45 Colt 'New' Vaquero will not. Make sure you know what you have!

As said above, the .454 Casull is a longer case (same diameter as .45 Colt). It should not fit in a .45 Colt chamber length wise. As said above the .454 works at a much much higher pressure that .45 Colt (and even the Ruger Only Loads for .45 Colt).

A .452 to .454 bullet however will be able to be loaded in a .45 Colt case and fired from a .45 Colt revolver. Normally you use the .454 bullet when you cylinder chambers are bigger than .452 as in a lot of the older .45 Colt revolvers.

Hope that helps!
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While the bullets are the same size, ones for the .454 have to be able to handle the much higher pressure.
For example, in Hornady there is the XTP Mag for use in the .454.
I've read where standard JHP bullets have come apart under the higher pressures.
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No to all your questions. The 454 works with much higher pressures thant the 45. The 454 is a magnamized 45 with the case longer so it won't chamber in a 45 Colt. Actually they use the same diameter bullet. The Redhawk is much stronger than the Vaquero and even the Redhawk won't handle the 454. You've got to step up to the Super Redhawk for a 454.
Actually there are lots of folks swapping a SRH cylinder into a 45 Redhawk and shooting 454 loads out of them.
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If you want very powerful 45 colt loads get buffalo bore heavy 45 colt loads. They are even more powerful than corebon loads. My 45 colt blackhawk loves 335 grain lead loads. Over 1300 fps from a 71/2 inch barrel. Not for the faint of heart. This is not quite 454 power, but it equals 45/70 carbine ballistics. That round has killed a lot of animals and a few people along the line.
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Thanks for all the input.

I did want to try out the buffalo bullet rounds.
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