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Old August 9th, 2011, 09:16 PM   #1
 
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Can i fan?

Ok, I know Ruger says no and I swear I was fine with that when I first read it but after having this Montado a few days and looking at that nice smooth top and low, wide hammer I'm asking, why not?



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Old August 10th, 2011, 12:17 AM   #2
 
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I 'think' its because you can bend the hammer sideways. I still do it on occasion, my father and I call it "voiding the warranty." (his guns not mine)
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Ok, I know Ruger says no.

I don't know..... but I think that's your answer.
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I know Bob Mundon does it with his Rugers
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There's folks that set theirs up for such a shooting style but I do believe they make some changes - perhaps a different transfer bar. I know those serious about it alter the hammer as well. personally, if I'm gonna shoot, I'll take controlled shots and not just "shoot from the hip". Just me. I've also heard of issues arising from fanning so if one chooses that route...whatever happens...take responsability accept it as your fault if and when something needs repair.
As for "voiding the warrantee"...what warrantee?
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I'm asking, why not?
I'd ask, why you would want to?
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Yes, but he also tunes them up and replaces parts to make it so he can fan his revolvers. You could send the revolver to him and a fee he can set it up. You can do it stock, but you'll batter the parts internals. Won't be to long and the gun will start to 'loosen' up so to speak.

Option #2 Quote : "Note: A stock single-action revolver (a gun straight from the factory,) is just not ready for repeated use and can be damaged quite easily and remember Fast-Drawing a stock gun will, without question, damage the gun."
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I'll tell you why you shouldn't fan your stock Ruger. With your gun unloaded, cock the hammer fully. Now hold the cylinder with one hand while pulling the hammer back as far as it will go. You will feel the cylinder still trying to move.

This is what will cause the damage in a stock gun. When fanning a stock Ruger the cylinder is slamming into the bolt stop causing damage to it and elongating the bolt notches in the cylinder. You can also imagine the damage to the pawl and other internals. Although stock Ruger guns are built tuff as a tank, they are not built to withstand continued fanning.

Below you see pictures of the adjustable hammer stop built into one of my fast draw Rugers. This prevents the over travel of the hammer. The timing is also set in this gun so if you cocked it slowly the cylinder may not even reach full lock up. The cylinder actually free wheels into place with the fast cocking of fanning or even thumb cocking of quick draw.

Bottom line is don't fan your stock Ruger, it's not built to take it. You asked why not fan your gun? You have your answer, but it is your gun so you decide whether you want to fan it or not.



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I know Bob Mundon does it with his Rugers
Bob Munden's Rugers are far from being stock.
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Bob Munden's Rugers are far from being stock.
Psssshhhhtt....what does Bob know. Amature....
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Psssshhhhtt....what does Bob know. Amature....
I don't get this. What's with the sarcasm? What I said is true. Do you think Bob Mundens guns are stock out of the box Rugers?
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That's pretty much what I thought, just wanted it explained to me.

As far as why I would want to, I was just thinking about in close quarters, under pressure I could see fanning off a few rounds but I guess if it came to that I'd just do what I had to and worry about repairs later. While I practice shooting for accuracy and then speed I just thought it would be nice to get a feel for it but I will refrain myself. lol
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Well Joe Bowman from before Bob and the guy that talked Ruger into the Vaquero stared useing the stainless blackhawk as soon as they came out. In his hotel room the night he recived them he took a dremill to them for the engraved look and went stright to his shooting show with them the next morning,no tune ups and they worked great.Yep when he got home he did more like smooth out the edges from where he removed the rear sight.Folks thought they were Colts for years untill you got a good look they were.Dime front sight came from him
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I don't get this. What's with the sarcasm? What I said is true. Do you think Bob Mundens guns are stock out of the box Rugers?
No, I'm teasing. Relax. Bob is VERY well known for his abilities, so me calling him an amature who doesn't know anything should be quite obviously a joke.
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Well Joe Bowman from before Bob and the guy that talked Ruger into the Vaquero stared useing the stainless blackhawk as soon as they came out. In his hotel room the night he recived them he took a dremill to them for the engraved look and went stright to his shooting show with them the next morning,no tune ups and they worked great.Yep when he got home he did more like smooth out the edges from where he removed the rear sight.Folks thought they were Colts for years untill you got a good look they were.Dime front sight came from him
If you watch Cal Elrich's (Quick Cal) tape or CD on "The Art Of Fast Draw" he gives you just about everything you need to know about it. He was a multiple time WFDA champion.

In one scene he demonstrates his fast draw with a stock Ruger Vaquero and an off the shelf Hunter holster. He was still blazingly fast. He just demonstrates that it can be done with stock equipment. He also explains why it shouldn't be done with stock equipment.

None of the exhibition shooters or fast draw SA shooters use stock equipment. Folks like Jerry Miculek that shoot double actions are a different breed. I don't know if their guns are modified or not.

Of course there is now "Cowboy Fast Draw". Their claim is that it is done with stock equipment. I don't know if they are allowed to have hammer stop blocks to keep from tearing up their guns or not. But I know that nothing else is allowed to be modified such as hammer spurs or removing sights or anything else.

Their times though can't compete with WFDA times.
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