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Old July 23rd, 2011, 09:25 AM   #1
 
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Which single action hammer is best, and why?

Ruger manufactures at least four different single action hammer styles. Which is best and why? Are they all interchangeable?
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Old July 23rd, 2011, 10:28 AM   #2
 
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I think it depends what you use the pistol for
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This thread made me think about something I had when I was a kid. I had a Mattel Fanner 50 toy revolver. What made it so cool was you could fan the hammer and it would feed the caps at the same time. For the younger of you, the caps came in a roll that you put into the gun and fed up through the front of the hammer. These would advance as you pulled the trigger making a loud pop when the cap was ignited. The Fanner 50 would also feed the caps when the hammer was fanned with the palm of your hand. You could fire off a roll of caps really quick. Is it possible to do this with a real single action revolver? I guess it's obvious I have never owned one. lol
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The real single action pistol is still the fastest firing handgun.Check out Bob Munden on u-tube
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"Best" is a personal matter. What I prefer and what another prefers isn't necessarily the same. What is "best" is what is best for YOU.

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I do believe that Ruger frowns on fanning the revolver for various mechencal reasons be it SA or DA. still it is your revolver----- Nuff said!
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All the pictured hammers (plus the Montado) except the Bisley are interchangeable.
When I say interchangeable, that doesn't mean they will always drop in and work as smooth as the hammer being replaced, but they should work.

The Bisley hammer requires a Bisley trigger.

Many people, myself included, prefer the Super Blackhawk hammer. It is the widest of the bunch and plenty low.
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I have a SBH Bisley edition 44mag and the SBH hammer is whats on it.
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I'm with BlkHawk73 ... different strokes for different folks. I have several Blackhawks with the factory hammers and one with a SBH hammer. I like the SBH's wider pad but I don't have a problem with a standard hammer. I also own a Bisley with the factory Bisley hammer and it works just fine too.

Belt Feeder, Just to clairfy your post a bit ..... Single-Sixes use a shorter hammer and will not interchange with larger frame SA revolvers. All Blackhawks, Vaqueros, and Super Blackhawks use the same length hammer and are interchangeable. You can use a long Bisley hammer on any BH or SBH but if it doesn't have a Bisley grip frame, you must cut the hammer slot back. If you use any standard hammer with a Bisley grip frame, you will have an empty space in the hammer slot behind the hammer. Montado hammers are shaped just like a SBH hammer except the lines in the spur are different.

Here's my 357 Mag Blackhawk that has been converted to a Super Blackhawk by installing a SBH steel grip frame and SBH hammer.
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I'm with BlkHawk73 ... different strokes for different folks. I have several Blackhawks with the factory hammers and one with a SBH hammer. I like the SBH's wider pad but I don't have a problem with a standard hammer. I also own a Bisley with the factory Bisley hammer and it works just fine too.

Belt Feeder, Just to clairfy your post a bit ..... Single-Sixes use a shorter hammer and will not interchange with larger frame SA revolvers. All Blackhawks, Vaqueros, and Super Blackhawks use the same length hammer and are interchangeable. You can use a long Bisley hammer on any BH or SBH but if it doesn't have a Bisley grip frame, you must cut the hammer slot back. If you use any standard hammer with a Bisley grip frame, you will have an empty space in the hammer slot behind the hammer. Montado hammers are shaped just like a SBH hammer except the lines in the spur are different.

Here's my 357 Mag Blackhawk that has been converted to a Super Blackhawk by installing a SBH steel grip frame and SBH hammer.
I always listen when you speak and have learned a lot in so doing, but I have to call you on the Single Six hammer. A buddy in Kerrville, Texas is a retired pistolsmith and collector. Thursday he showed me some of his blueprinted guns including two .44 Mag Blackhawks that sported the smaller Single Six hammers. Most of his Blackhawks have either Super Blackhawk or Single Six hammers due to the lower profile and easier cocking. I do not know however, how much if any he had to alter them (SS) to make them work, but I saw them and handled them this past Thursday. They are noticebly smaller in profile than standard hammers. I suspect that he may have to alter the hammer face in order to get it to clear the transfer bar when the trigger is not pulled, but that is just a guess.

His guns are top notch and lock up every bit as tight and even smoother than his Freedom Arms guns. When they come to full cock, it almost feels like the cylinders are welded in place. The Single Six Hammers can be installed in the full sized Blackhawks.

Please keep the info coming! I alway enjoy reading and learning from what you have to say.
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Belt Feeder, Just to clairfy your post a bit ..... Single-Sixes use a shorter hammer and will not interchange with larger frame SA revolvers. All Blackhawks, Vaqueros, and Super Blackhawks use the same length hammer and are interchangeable. You can use a long Bisley hammer on any BH or SBH but if it doesn't have a Bisley grip frame, you must cut the hammer slot back. If you use any standard hammer with a Bisley grip frame, you will have an empty space in the hammer slot behind the hammer. Montado hammers are shaped just like a SBH hammer except the lines in the spur are different.
Thanks for the correction, Iowegan. I have no experience with the Bisleys.
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Let me see if I can narrow it down a bit...

Which hammer is better for one-hand operation? Assume very large hands.

I've owned a couple of Super Blackhawks over the years, and I appreciate the extra width of the hammer spur. I am, however, intrigued by the angle of the Vaquero hammer. I haven't had the chance to handle a Vaquero, but it seems that it might be more conducive thumb-cocking with the firing hand.

Most of my shooting is two-handed, but I make a point of practicing single-handed shooting with either hand.

I've have a Super Single-Six convertible (.22), a Blackhawk in .44 Special (4 5/8"), with a Lipsey's Blackhawk .45 (5 1/2") convertible on order. The .44 will be used with mid-level loads while the .45 will probably be used with .45 ACP rounds. These are all stainless models, so I'm not currently considering changing the grip frame.

I had some trigger work done on the Single-Six a few years ago, and I really enjoy the smooth two pound trigger pull.

I'll probably invest in some gunsmithing work on the Blackhawks, and if I'm going to try a hammer/trigger other than the standard factory model, I'd rather commit to those before I have the work done.

You observations/opinions are both invited and welcomed.

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Mapache, I suppose you could make a Stanley claw hammer fit in a Ruger if you wanted to spend enough time and money. Single-Six and Blackhawk hammers are different lengths and will not interchange without doing some major surgery. When you reference custom guns, there's no telling what can be done.

OldNavy, How about reorganizing your Club Icons .... your posts are two pages wide .... makes it difficult to read when we have to scroll back and forth.

As for the hammers ... either a Vaquero of SBH hammer will drop in your BH with little or no gunsmithing. I have a Vaquero in 45 Colt Convertible and like the looks of the hammer but for function, I much prefer the wider spur on a Super Blackhawk hammer.

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I really like the Original Size VAQUERO/BISLEY VAQUERO in 357 and 44. I have replaced the XR3-red grip frames with either a HUNTER or DRAGOON grip frame...and installed a SUPER BLACKHAWK hammer on the most recently acquired guns...it is a lot easier to manipulate if you have large hands and arthritis/rheumatism issues starting to raise their head. I like this so much I am toying with the idea of having the hammers changed on the other guns when they require repairs.
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Here's a photo of a NM Single-Six hammer on top of a NM Blackhawk hammer with the bases of both hammers aligned. There is a notable difference in height.

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