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Old April 23rd, 2011, 07:29 PM   #16
 
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Good luck choosing. A friend is buying one now, and He's got me fired up and looking with him. I'm used to a new model Blackhawk 4 5/8 in 45 that has been made very smooth. when I first handled a new vaquero 357 5.5 I couldnt believe the weight of the gun and the heavy trigger pull. The steel frame seemed to change the feel and it was very heavy to me, by comparison to mine. It also felt a little barrel heavy and tiped forwards a little when pointed. then we looked at the same gun in 4 5/8, 357 and the balance felt perfect. Trigger pull was still very stiff but the gun felt very, very good when pointed. But, with my older eyes, it has a narrow sight picture. Good for younger shooters, probably a problem for older shooters. I'm sure the action will clean up nicely, just another expense. Might loosen up with use and a new spring or two. I liked the gun.

Today I handled a Beretta Stampede, 357, 4 3/4 blue with black synthetic grips. It has a transfer bar safety which is a plus. It also has the four clicks which is a hoot when you havent felt one in 30 years. This is what my friend originally wanted, something close to his Dad's Colt. The sight picture was also noticably wider which I liked. The balance felt very good in the hand , but I think I might like the base of the grips just a little thinner as the Vaqueros were. It also had that shoot me, you'll love me feel, but I'll admit the new Vaq, felt just a little more exciting in the hand. These where both 357 and probably a little heavier than a 45 would be. I think either one would make a great gun. In .45 though everyone talks about the Ruger being such a tank, but with the new model Vaq, that may not be so true since they reduced the size of the frame and cylinder and eveyone says you cant hot rod the loads anymore. It's been around a few years now, and I cant say in my short research on the net of both that I've heard of this being a problem, but it's something to keep in mind. Personally I never liked the feel of the old Vaq, esp compared to my Blackhawk and my adj sights, but I only shot a friends once or twice many years ago.



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Old April 24th, 2011, 07:11 AM   #17
 
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I own both and like both for different reasons.

First, 5 rounds vs 6, then go to a thread that ask 3 screw vs new model and so many want the 3 screw even though its only safe for 5 rounds.

I bought a Uberti before a Vaquero. I had the same delema. I called a buddy for his opinion. He is like me, we like the gun, but dont compete with it. So I will prob never wear one out.

He said, do you want a modern design or a gun that is stamped Patent 1873 on the side. I like the idea of an 1873 revolver.

I thougt I might regret not buying a Ruger, i ended up with four over that year (Its a drug) and I like the Uberti, Vaquero and Black hawks for different reasons. (A 45 birds head, a 41 Black Hawk, a 1970 357 three screw and a Sherrif 44 special Vaquero)

So in the end, you will not be unhappy with the uberti, and you get to show your friends an 1873 revolver.

If you buy the Ruger, three months later you will buy the Uberti because you think you missed out on something. (Guns are evil)
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BTW, is it a clone? Do you consider all 1911's clones
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I hapen to live close to Taylor Uberti, one of the importers. I bought the Ruger birdshead because I thought it be cool to have the birdshead with a 3 1/2 for a cross draw, or better concealability. The one I got is the bigger frame Ruger, its not much bigger.

So then I wanted just the shorter barrel on the Uberti. I went to them, they have a gunsmith full time, and we looked at the shorter barrel and other changes including making it a birdshead.

In the end I have kept it like it is with the 4 3/4 barrel, but I had more options, not to mention I have more options of a matching gun to go with it (a birdshead or just a 3 1/2 inch gun for cross draw, or other options)

Check out both A. Uberti Firearms and Taylor's & Co., Inc. they have guns for competition so the quality is strong enough for it.

Rugers are tough, I am pretty sure everyone agrees. But there are other choices that are pretty cool.


Besides, isnt this a cool thing to show your friends
From Cimarron

The Doc Holliday Special. 3 ” 45LC Nickel-plated and Tru Ivory™ grips. Each gun has “Doc Holliday” hand engraved into the backstrap, along with the number of the gun. Also comes with a Tru Ivory™ gripped dagger engraved with the same number just in case you run out of ammunition. Throw in a matching shoulder holster to hold them both and you have one truly special package.

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Love the looks of the Doc Holiday..super sharp!!
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I just found this. How it is made (Uberti is made)
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I happed to have a real weakness for revolvers in 44 Special. My first two are Smith & Wesson double-actions (a 6.5" blued and a 3" stainless) on their big N-frame. Nice shooters, both of 'em.

Then I special ordered a Taylor's Company (Uberti based Colt SAA clone) as a 5.5" photo engraved 44 Special with their nice trigger job. This took about 4 months as quoted and is reall nice looking and has a smooth ligh trigger.

So you would think my 44 Spl habit was fully satisfied, right? Wrong, Ruger came out with 44 Special Blackhawks and I told myself this wold be a great shooter as everyone knows the BH is strong and reliable, so I ust bought a 5.5" Nw Model Blackhawk as well. I am looking for a just right set of fancy grips for it and plan to get some good use out of it while kicking around in the desert here in Arizona. My Glock is a good carry gun, but a single-action in a good holster just makes me feel good...

So my advice is to get whichever floats your boat, but keep in mind that if high volume shooting is on you mind, the Ruger will not let you down.
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I have the birdshead .32 Vaq. and love it...
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I happed to have a real weakness for revolvers in 44 Special. My first two are Smith & Wesson double-actions (a 6.5" blued and a 3" stainless) on their big N-frame. Nice shooters, both of 'em.

Then I special ordered a Taylor's Company (Uberti based Colt SAA clone) as a 5.5" photo engraved 44 Special with their nice trigger job. This took about 4 months as quoted and is reall nice looking and has a smooth ligh trigger.

So you would think my 44 Spl habit was fully satisfied, right? Wrong, Ruger came out with 44 Special Blackhawks and I told myself this wold be a great shooter as everyone knows the BH is strong and reliable, so I ust bought a 5.5" Nw Model Blackhawk as well. I am looking for a just right set of fancy grips for it and plan to get some good use out of it while kicking around in the desert here in Arizona. My Glock is a good carry gun, but a single-action in a good holster just makes me feel good...

So my advice is to get whichever floats your boat, but keep in mind that if high volume shooting is on you mind, the Ruger will not let you down.
I had a similar problem. I wanted a single action and Bought the uberti in 45 colt. But I still felt like i nneded a Ruger, and ran across the 3 1/2 inch Birdshead in 45 colt.

But I also want a 44 special, so when Ruger came out with it in both Blackhawk and Vaquero, I decided the 3 1/2 in Vaq was the right choice. But Im not sure and I think I need the Blackhawk.

Then I ran across a 41 blackhawk, 4 5/8. And the 41 is a great cult round. I am thinking about a sister one to it. (I have no need for them, but it is lonely) Then I ran across a 1970 357/9mm blackhawk.

So I am still looking at the 44 spl Blackhawk. And that Doc Holliday looks cool.

Guns are eveil, there are too many of them and I dont have enough money.
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New Vaquero...all the way!!!

Tough as nails...safe as hell...all at a very reasonable price.
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I could be wrong having just handled them and not actually shooting either, but I think with my older eyes the narrow sights on the Vaq will be too hard to see, and some of the various Uberti models feature wider grooves and front sights, esp that one by Taylor.

Anyone else run into this? A friend just bought a new Vaq and I'm anxious to give it a try. I wonder what the average age of most buyers is.
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I'm 60 and have one of each (see avatar)in .45 Colt. I shaped the grips to match closely, so they would ''feel'' the same but of course the old Vaquero is heavier. The New Vaquero is about identical in size etc with the Colt and clones. I personally would buy the Ruger based on my ownership experience.

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....I'd want the ability to load up some hot Ruger-only loads. Get the Ruger.
CAUTION: Don't use "Ruger-Only Loads" in the New Vaquero. They are strong enough for any standard loads but the Ruger-Only Loads are only meant for the larger-frame Original Vaqueros and Blackhawks.
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No Mas Uberti

So I was thinking this same question when I was going to get a 7 1/2 inch Revolver. I handled Taylors, Piettas, Uberti, Berretta Stampedes, and the Goucho before it was discontinued, and I ultimately went with the New Ruger Vaquero. Coil Springs over Leaf any day, and I love the stainless finish on Rugers over the other models. No regrets, buy a RUGER.
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Re read his origional post. He already owns one Ruger.

I would get the Uberti. I have both and like both. If you were competing the Ruger is a better choice. But if not you will prob never have an issue.

Side by side the Uberti does feel lighter. When I handle both deciding what one I like more and I like both for different reasons. I would buy another Uberti. (own four Rugers: Vaqueros and Blackhawks)
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