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Old December 18th, 2010, 09:32 AM   #1
 
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Thoughts on a .44 Magnum Super Blackhawk

I been eying this New Model Super Blackhawk .44 Magnum (SS) 7.5 inch at the range and gun shop I go to.

It is labeled as new and the price is $489.00 (I think...I know it is in that range).
On Ruger's site it is priced at $687.00.

First question: Is that a good price for this gun...NEW? $489.00

Second question: For those that own and/or fired this gun in this length (7.5") then what is your opinion and experience with it?

Third Question: How is the recoil? Would the Bisley grip make that much of a difference with such a long barrel?

I truly love the Single Actions and this design looks to be really well made.

Anything I should be looking out for or any questions I should ask before I take a shot at purchasing this gun?

Just for the record it is the exact model on Ruger's page HERE. (KS-47N)
Second gun down on that page.

EDIT: Oh I am planing of dickering more on the price...



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Old December 18th, 2010, 09:44 AM   #2
 
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I had one for many years. The only problem for me was that square backed trigger guard. It really messes up your middle finger knuckle with heavy recoiling loads, to the point that I had bone chips floating around on that knuckle.

I recently bought a Ruger Hunter SBH in .45 colt. It has the more user friendly rounded trigger guard and is a pleasure to shoot, even with .44 magnum equivalent recoil.

As to the price, it sounds about right. Factory suggested list prices are usually 20% to 25% above what is found at a dealer.
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Thank you for the reply...

I was wondering about that trigger guard myself.
Did they square it off so it did not bang in to your finger so bad?
That is how it looks like to me.
However, as I stated before...I am NO expert on these things.
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According to Elmer Keith, it was called a "dragoon" style trigger guard. It may be pleasing to the eye of some, but useless in my opinion.
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Some people like the square and some like the round. I have both and actually prefer the square, although I shoot the shorter barrel with the round trigger guard more. As for the barrel length, I prefer a 4 5/8 or 5 1/2. They seem much more shootable to me......

Just recognize that we all have opinions and what works for one may not work for you. The 7 1/2 SBH is a classic and everyone should have one.....

I think the price is good too!
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"The 7 1/2 SBH is a classic and everyone should have one....."

Absolutely!!

I don't have much trouble with the Dragoon style trigger guard, and for me, the regular grip works better under heavy recoil than the bisley. The bisley does have a "cool" factor though...
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I've had two 44mags - OM Super Blackhawk and a Redhawk when they first came out. The Blackhawk was my first hand gun while in the USAF. Even then I'd tire of it after around 100 rounds..

You ask about recoil.. Obviously it will vary with the load you have but it's a big gun and that will help. My rule of thumb was that any boy above around 12-13 had the strength and reflexes to handle the recoil and most adult women were certainly able to handle it (but really didn't enjoy it). It's a subjective thing so no one can tell *you* what your impressions will be.

Now, at 60, I shot a M29 last year and wasn't the least bit envious.
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Felt recoil is usually in the hands of the beholder, but in my hands the SBH with the plowhandle grip is on the verge of being painful with highend loads. I much prefer the Bisley gripframe for max .44 mag. loads. My only gripe with the Bisley, is tha it does't come in shorter barrel lengths unless you can find one from Accusport or Lipseys.
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If you research John Linebaugh's or Hamilton Bowen's websites, you'll find that a lot of their big bore five shot conversions ie. .475 Linebaugh, .500 Linebaugh, and the .50 AE use the Bisley gripframe to handle the heavy recoil these revolvers produce.
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"The 7 1/2 SBH is a classic and everyone should have one....."

Absolutely!!

I don't have much trouble with the Dragoon style trigger guard, and for me, the regular grip works better under heavy recoil than the bisley. The bisley does have a "cool" factor though...
Agreed! I have a large family of Rugers but seems like the SBH 7 1/2 stainless as stated is a classic and helps complete a Ruger family. As for recoil put a set of Bearpaw EIG 5 grips on it and you are good to go!!
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Man you guys know yer stuff.
I am humbled and thankful for the opinions and assistance from you all...Thank You Very much.
I enjoy learning about weapons and Single Action is becoming my favorite.
(Don't get me wrong. I love my SP101 and I been practicing more and more Double Action with it...<nod>)
Maybe it is from all the westerns I watched growing up.
Reading and learning more about our history also contributed to my love for the 'Six Gun' or the Revolver in general.
However, simply holding and pulling back the hammer while listening to the 'clicks', aiming then pulling the trigger is a beautiful thing.
You really appreciate each and every shot with a single action.

The Bisley Grip 'looks like' it does what you all says it does.
I have never fired any gun with one. I sure wish they had one in my gun shop's rentals.
Like a Test Drive...haha!
I am assuming I could have this gun converted to a Bisley Grip down the road.

I just found out that the gun I was looking at went to a Gun Show this weekend.
There is a fair chance it could be gone by Monday when the shop opens back up.
I talked to the owner's son and he said he would pull it aside for me.
He would have had them hold it at the show but, I wanted to look at it one more time.
I like this young man. He has always been straight with me and also sold me my Single Six.
So I let him know to 'Let it Ride' and if it sells then it sells.

I see no need to rush. One thing about getting older is you do develop a sense of wisdom on 'deals'.
My Father always told me: "The World is full of deals...always be willing to walk away...there is a deal that is perfect for you. Never rush it".
Also I wanted to hear from Men (and Women) like yourselves that KNOW about such things.
Taking in to account that your experiences, knowledge, and opinions are valuable to me.

So if that gun is back on Monday and after I inspect it again and if the 'feeling' is right...Then I think I will take it.
I want to dicker just enough to purchase that so it is under $500.00.
Meaning by taking the 6% sales tax in to account so it no more then $500.00 'Out the Door'.
My friend and I normally go to this range on Friday afternoons.
So I have 'missed out' on many guns that are normally in the case during the week.
This pass week we were in on a weekday and that is when I saw this .44 Blackhawk.
I am leaving it up to Provendence. I believe in such things as that.
I never believe in any coincidence of any kind either.

On a side note: I was doing a little reading on John Linebaugh's conversions.
THAT is the Holy Grail of these types of guns in my opinion.
Man, that would be fantastic to own one of his conversions.
(You get what you pay for with him and you can tell they will stand behind EVERYthing they work on)
I kept playing that YouTube over and over...I loved the sound of that gun he fired.
Many YouTubes I have listening to just do not have good sound quality.
Probably the camera mic but, his sounded like a real big boy gun!
And to see HOW he handled that gun while firing it was classic.
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A person does need a Black hawk if for know other reason as to impress those with small cals. I have a 7.5" black hawk with the square guard, I put a set of Houges on it to keep from biteing me. When target practiceing to lessen the recoil i run 44 sp rounds through it milder recoil. The price you are looking seems fair and if can be had for the 500 mark even better for NIB!
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I have a stainless steel & 7 1/2"" Super Blackhawk that I have been hunting with . The trigger guard doesn't bother me at all. It is a great gun and balances really good.

Hopefully yours will come back from the show...
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Thank you for the reply...

I was wondering about that trigger guard myself.
Did they square it off so it did not bang in to your finger so bad?
That is how it looks like to me.
However, as I stated before...I am NO expert on these things.
I think you're right, The squared trigger guard was designed to reduce or eliminate your knuckles getting wacked, but (PB454)'s experence doesn't appeal to me.
I prefer the rounded trigger guard myself, but different strokes for different folks I guess.
Now I would like to pass along all my gun buying wisdom I have gained from my many years on this planet:
".............................(pin dropping).........................."
I still buy with my eyes and not my brain when it comes to guns.
I"ve learned to deal with buyers remorse later.
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Howdy All:

I bought my SBH Stainless 7.5" 44 Mag from the "Hutchman" & it has all the wild things I like, besides it looks sharp next to the Model 96/44Mag carbine... 240 grains of lead work well in both........

Yes I also agree that everyone needs to own one of these along the way....Round or square, is really & totally up to the owner..I have shot both & have no complaints either way!

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