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Old October 20th, 2010, 12:13 PM   #1
 
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Blackhawk .44 Special "Flat Top" question.

I see that Ruger now offers the Blackhawk in 44 Special in a "Flat Top" and have been thinking of getting one. Is the grip frame aluminum like the other Blackhawk models, or is it steel? Can anyone who bought one recently confirm or deny? Any input is appreciated!



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I see that Ruger now offers the Blackhawk in 44 Special in a "Flat Top" and have been thinking of getting one. Is the grip frame aluminum like the other Blackhawk models, or is it steel? Can anyone who bought one recently confirm or deny? Any input is appreciated!
The NM 44 Special Flat Top has the XR3 Steel Grip Frame, same as the NM 44 Magnum Anniversary Flat Top............................................... ..................
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Also, the main frame is the 'medium' size frame like the .357 50th Anniversary and the New Vaqueros. All the other Blackhawks and Super Blackhawks use the 'large' frame. Probably aware of that, but thought I'd point it out anyway! Perfect for the .44 Special.
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Thank you, fellas! I will be ordering one tomorrow!
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Dana the Dane;
You will NOT regret ordering the new Ruger Flattop .44 Special. I bought the .44 Lipsey Special (5" flattop) and the cylinder throats are a perfect, round .431" (each and every one). I LOVE the operation of the alignment pawl (common to the New Vaquero and the 50th Anniversary models). The only thing I had done was a trigger job. Mine shoots extremely well and is satisfactory in VERY way.

I put a pair of .45 Colt SAA Pachmayr grips on mine (LOVE the Pachmayrs) and it is extremely comfortable with any load, mild to wild.

My most used load for this is the "Skeeter" load, a 250 gr Keith cast bullet ahead of 7.5 grs of Unique. It will shoot under 1" at 25 yards and will do most of what I need done with a field revolver (950 fps).

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I have heard nothing but good things about the Lipsey's limited run of these that were available a while ago. I missed out on those, but these seem comparable. Obviously, the Blackhawk in a .44 special "flat-top" was a hit and Ruger added them to their lineup. If it shoots as good as it looks, I should have a winner here. I am ordering more .44 special brass, and I will see if I can find a good mold for the Keith cast bullet. This is my first single-action purchase, and I hope a made a good choice. Thank you, Dale53, for your input!

PS I, too , ordered the 5 1/2" model. When you say "trigger job", do you mean changing over to Wolff springs?
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I have a Lipsey .44 Sp with a 4 5/8 bbl. It has become a favorite. It will be my woods gun in the UP this fall.
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I love my 4 5/8" lipsey and dad has the 5.5" version of the regular version the quality is the same.
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PS I, too , ordered the 5 1/2" model. When you say "trigger job", do you mean changing over to Wolff springs?
I have taken to replacing just the trigger return spring as it has the most effect without any worrys of light strikes.
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I have the stainless steel Flat top 44spl. It is my all time favorite. With 4-5/8" barrel
it is a great woods loafer gun. Even thinking of a pancake holster for it and use it as
my ccw gun. FYI, the RCBS 430-255k is the closest to Lymans original Keith bullet.
Just ordered 1 myself.
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Dana;
You mentioned that you were looking for a good mould for the .44 Special Flattop. I am running a Group Buy for a four cavity brass mould for the H&G #503 (as near an original Keith bullet as can be found). These are premium moulds that will drop at .432". You can find full information, here:

ATTENTION! A new MiHec four cavity brass mould in .44 - Cast Boolits

If any of you are interested in a bullet mould of this particular bullet, you will NOT find a better mould.

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In all my years of casting, I've never used a brass mould.
How do they hold up over the long run?
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Dpris;
Brass moulds are more durable than aluminum. I have iron, brass, and aluminum moulds. All materials will cast good bullets. I prefer brass for the casting qualities along with durability. However, if you are careful with your bullet moulds (and I am, BIG TIME) any of the three materials will work well for you for a long time.

All of that said, I prefer brass...

Dana, my "trigger job" while it included a spring change, it also included careful stoning of the sear to eliminate creep. I now have a rather light (3.0 lbs) creep free trigger pull. I can shoot MUCH better with a good trigger and every Ruger that I have has had a trigger job done to it.

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Thanks, Dale.

I ended up keeping a .44 Special Lipsey's Blackhawk test sample. Had no interest in the caliber previously & still don't in any other form.
It was the gun that sold the caliber, for me. Fits a particular niche, once tweaked a bit.
Working up a good utility load around 1000-1100 FPS now, with commercial Keith bullets. Might be nice to have a good quality gang mould on hand.

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DPris, i'd expect a brass mold to hold heat more evenly than an alu mold, and not to suffer the corrosion and maintenance headaches of a steel/iron mold. Is this accurate?
I'd like to cast someday, but don't have the time or space currently.

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I'm just not familiar with the qualities of brass in a mould application.
I've used aluminum moulds intermittently over the years, they heat up quickly & seem to hold heat well. Aluminum is a good conductor.
Brass does develop its own patina with time, but doesn't corrode like steel if left to rust. I've never seen pits in brass, have seen them develop in steel, obviously.

My greater concern with brass would be wear & possible warpage. Some brass mixtures can be relatively soft.

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