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Old October 13th, 2010, 11:19 AM   #1
 
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Blackhawk .30 Carbine vs .327 Fed Mag

Myself and a buddy of mine are in an argument over small caliber loads in a Blackhawk. Specifically the .30 Carbine vs the new .327 Federal Magnum. The .30 isn't the new and shiny any more and has never had a wide bullet selection but is listed from an unknown barrel length in a handgun as 110 Grain bullet moving 1850 FPS vs .327 115 Grain at 1301 FPS. From the big uptick in numbers there alone it would seem the .30 Carbine would be screaming better. So what are some real world values or experiences that would prove this point or otherwise? Or would this make a good feral hog dispatch. I'm not talking Russian Boar Hogzilla's here, just the average squealer trotting through the woods that would cook up good in a pot. These aren't the kind of hog that you need to tote a .44 anything to knock down.

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Old October 13th, 2010, 12:22 PM   #2
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well first since the .30 isn't a rimmed cartridge that presents problems right there. next the .30 holds 6 while the .327 holds 8. that fact right there would make me get the .327 over a .30 just because it irritates me when a company can put more rounds into a gun but doesn't for no good reason.
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yes a .30 carbine will smoke a .327 by 300+ FPS with similar weight bullets.
My thought would be why carry a heavy 30 cal Blackhawk when my lipsey .44 special 240gr cast SWC @ 900fps would do the trick just fine.it's several oz lighter and won't bust your eardrums like a .30 carbine BH will.
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I own both and prefer not to use 30 carbine ammunition and instead, use 32/20 cases. The 30 carbine is much hotter than the 327 but unless you handload, it's a full metal jacket or a round nose soft point which aren't the best hunting bulets. As already mentioned, the 327 is rimmed which lends itself well for revolver use. All things considered, I'd rather have the 327 for hunting but with using the 32/20 cases in the carbine, one seems just like the other.
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I wouldn't use either the .30 Carbine OR .327 Federal for hog hunting. I believe hogs are best served with something that starts with a "4".

My choice would be a minimum of a .44 Special (reloads), .44 Magnum, or .45 Colt (w/reloads).

But, that's just me...

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*ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh* <<<<< blood curdling scream lol
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The little 30 served me well in Viet Nam and I know it will take deer. A person could do a lot worse than haveing a M-1 over his shoulder and a 30BH on his hip
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The little 30 served me well in Viet Nam and I know it will take deer. A person could do a lot worse than haveing a M-1 over his shoulder and a 30BH on his hip
I know exactly what you mean. I wonder how someone comes up with a "4" in an arrow shaft and bow hunters kill boar all the time. I've taken deer with a 22 Hornet but of course, if we want to shoot through them and have the energy spent in the hillside behind them, we ned a "4". Kind of like deer hunting with a 7mm mag or a 300 Winchester.
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The .30 carbine is a .308 caliber and the .32-20 uses .313 caliber bullets. Is that even safe? The cartridge dimensions aren't even that close. Maybe the Blackhawk frame is strong enough but that is a heck of a thing to take on faith.

HOWEVER...

I have been curious since the .32 H R came out why we don't just make a decent revolver in .32-20... It has always been a decent deer rifle and I personally think all the lever actions that were bored out to .357 is the only reason the .32-20 lost so much popularity. Maybe a BH in .32-20 would be one nice thing to wish for...
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I know exactly what you mean. I wonder how someone comes up with a "4" in an arrow shaft and bow hunters kill boar all the time. I've taken deer with a 22 Hornet but of course, if we want to shoot through them and have the energy spent in the hillside behind them, we ned a "4". Kind of like deer hunting with a 7mm mag or a 300 Winchester.
While I agree that too many hunters attempt to make up for lack of skill (either shooting or hunting skill) with power. the bow analogy is a pretty good streach as I wouldn't respect any hunter who used field tips on biggame and broad-heads are way bigger than .4.
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A Bisley Blackhawk x 7.5" with adjustable sights and swap cylinders in 32-20 WCF and 327 Magnum wouldn't hurt my feelings one bit. Six shots are enough for me, no need to gild the lily.
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While I agree that too many hunters attempt to make up for lack of skill (either shooting or hunting skill) with power. the bow analogy is a pretty good streach as I wouldn't respect any hunter who used field tips on biggame and broad-heads are way bigger than .4.
I am confused. What is a streach?
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I am confused. What is a streach?
so I don't speel to good. as my dad would probably say read what I mean not what I type lol
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so I don't speel to good. as my dad would probably say read what I mean not what I type lol
That's another matter in itself.
A broadhead is bigger than a 4? The original post refered to a "4" as a caliber begining with the number 4. Since the post was specific to handgun calibers, he must have meant the 44. A broadhead is bigger than a 44? So is a coffee cup but I'm assuming by the term "Bigger", you must mean more powerful. Now an arrow with broadhead being shot from a bow with a 70 lb. draw weight, will be in the neighborhood of 700 grains. This arrow will be flying at around 250 fps, plus or minus. This produces about 100 foot pounds of energy upon release. A 240 grain bulet from the 44 mag, flying at 1100 fps is about 650 foot pounds of energy at the muzzle. The 327 using a 100 grain bullet at 1300 fps, produces close to 400 foot pounds of energy at the muzzle. Again, I am confused about how you arrived at the basis for your statement that the broadhead is bigger than the 44 but...........whatever you say.
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I have shot a couple of .30 carbine Blackhawks, and they are awesome, huge muzzle blast, and big noise. I would actually prefer to have one over the .327, but the .30 carbine ammo is harder to find around here. The owner of my local gun store carries a .327 s&w, so he keeps a good bit of .327 ammo on the shelves.
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