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Old April 27th, 2017, 09:51 PM   #1
 
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Question Stiff Loading Gate

The loading gate on my NMV Talo Birdshead .45 ACP shorty is very stiff and hard to open.

Is this normal?

Is there a home remedy solution for this?

Thanks in advance...





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Try keeping open for a few days and see if that helps.
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I believe the tension on the gate pivot can be adjusted via the little screw accessed from the bottom of the main frame under the grip frame. It is so in many other models.

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I believe the tension on the gate pivot can be adjusted via the little screw accessed from the bottom of the main frame under the grip frame. It is so in many other models.
There is a gate pivot tension screw on New Models?
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There is a gate pivot tension screw on New Models?
Unfortunately the NM uses the pesky gate spring and there is no adjustment screw. The gate spring on the NMs is my least favorite attribute of NM design. It can sometimes be a real pain and having a third hand is useful. Brownell's actually makes and sells a special tool that is "the third hand" for gate spring assembly. If you watch the Ruger video on SA disassembly/reassembly it looks easy and maybe it is for some but I've never found it very easy to deal with.

One of the reasons I find the OMs much easier to tinker with than the NMs.

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Thanks Waveform.

Yeah. Just before I read your post I took the grip frame off and there is no adjustment screw, as you said.

Maybe it will lighten-up with use?
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Thanks Waveform.

Yeah. Just before I read your post I took the grip frame off and there is no adjustment screw, as you said.

Maybe it will lighten-up with use?
Maybe but that could mean a LOT of use. You can live with it or talk it over with Ruger CS and see if they are willing to look at it or you can try to swap out the spring. Ruger will likely send you a free spring if you ask for one.

Without actually opening/closing your loading gate myself I can't say if it's unusually stiff or within the loose range of "normal". I've felt a few that I thought were pretty bad so I have some idea what you may be experiencing. On the other hand all those OMs you have may have you spoiled.

If you called up Ruger CS and told them the loading gate was so stiff you could hardly open or close it I expect they would send you a prepaid shipping label and take a look at it. Wouldn't cost you a dime and I would rather have them fiddle with it on a brand new gun.
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Maybe but that could mean a LOT of use. You can live with it or talk it over with Ruger CS and see if they are willing to look at it or you can try to swap out the spring. Ruger will likely send you a free spring if you ask for one.

Without actually opening/closing your loading gate myself I can't say if it's unusually stiff or within the loose range of "normal". I've felt a few that I thought were pretty bad so I have some idea what you may be experiencing. On the other hand all those OMs you have may have you spoiled.

If you called up Ruger CS and told them the loading gate was so stiff you could hardly open or close it I expect they would send you a prepaid shipping label and take a look at it. Wouldn't cost you a dime and I would rather have them fiddle with it on a brand new gun.
Some good food for thought!

I'll give them a call next week...
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I just got a pair of bisley vaqueros in January. I dry fire most days. The loading gates are loosening up nicely.
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Make sure the spring is in position where it is supposed to be . if the tail end is not in place it can make the gate hard to open.
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"Unfortunately the NM uses the pesky gate spring and there is no adjustment screw."

Well, as I've admitted before, I don' know nothin' 'bout no New Models.

Just ignore me.

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Somewhere in this forum, in one of my earliest posts, a kind person recommended to me that I take mine apart and barely bend the spring where it puts tension on the loading grade on a 44 mag I had. My issue was the opposite...it wasn't tight enough against the grip frame. It took me and one of my friends about 30 minutes to do this little operation and it worked perfectly.
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This seems to be a common problem with the current crop of new models. Call customer service. They will mail you out a new spring.
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Lubricate , open and close gate 10,000 times !
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This seems to be a common problem with the current crop of new models. Call customer service. They will mail you out a new spring.
The New Vaquero I bought in late 2015 had a VERY stiff loading gate. Traded that one off towards a Colt SAA even though it was a nice revolver.
The NV I purchased three months ago is much better, but still not smooth as my 1968 3 Screw Blackhawk - or Colt SAA for that matter.

It's getting better with use and is a keeper.


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