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Old April 23rd, 2017, 04:47 PM   #31
 
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Wish I could. It had to go when pre-condition hospital bills came. Sadly I found out the new owner put on a 22 Hornet barrel. WTH !!
Here's an Internet photo. Push the plunger at the rear of the cylinder allowing it to rotate clockwise then drop a round into the barrel.
That's a cool firearm!

Maybe the new owner had ammo availability issues?

Still, I get your point about modifying it!

Are the .22 hornet and the .256 cartridge cases similar enough to use the existing chamber?

Again, very cool...




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Nope.

Hornet is an old-style looong-taper case and the bore takes .224" bullets.

.256 is more of a conventional "bottleneck" case, and the bore is, well, you know . . .


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It's not the original manual, that's for sure. Wonder if Ruger furnishes such a manual these days when they fit a "safety conversion"? Could also be the guy just picked up this manual at a gun show or something.

I'm curious, too.
I picked up my two Old Model Blackhawks (.41 magnum & .45 Colt) today.

Yep! The 41 has been converted! The manual shown in the picture came from the factory I suppose. The original manual and warranty card is in the box too.

I am in negotiation with the seller over the misinformation he gave me about it NOT being converted. He seems to be a fair and honest fella so I'm sure we'll come to an equitable solution.

I'm keeping this fine hunk of iron and will be UN-converting it with the parts I have on hand.

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Nice looking piece of shooting iron!
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Hopefully it's original and never been converted. The older models had nice cylinder timing and the pawl never touched the cylinder during rotation.

. . . if handled properly. Just remember to NEVER let the hammer down from anything other than full-cock.

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I picked up my two Old Model Blackhawks (.41 magnum & .45 Colt) today.

Yep! The 41 has been converted! The manual shown in the picture came from the factory I suppose. The original manual and warranty card is in the box too.

I am in negotiation with the seller over the misinformation he gave me about it NOT being converted. He seems to be a fair and honest fella so I'm sure we'll come to an equitable solution.

I'm keeping this fine hunk of iron and will be UN-converting it with the parts I have on hand.

Surprisingly enough, many folks don't actually understand the difference between converted and un-converted. All they have to do is look at the hammer, but even then they may not know what to look for. Hope you reach that "equitable solution".

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Maybe I'm weird (jury is still out), but I don't understand the attraction of an unconverted revolver. Personally, I like knowing that I can load up six rounds, put it in my holster, and not worry about it.

Maybe from a collectors point of view it makes sense. I'm a shooter though, so quality of shooting is at the top of my list for a gun be it a revolver, semi-auto, or rifle.
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Maybe I'm weird (jury is still out), but I don't understand the attraction of an unconverted revolver. Personally, I like knowing that I can load up six rounds, put it in my holster, and not worry about it.

Maybe from a collectors point of view it makes sense. I'm a shooter though, so quality of shooting is at the top of my list for a gun be it a revolver, semi-auto, or rifle.


True, from a collector's standpoint un-converted is the more desirable. But the original three screw Blackhawks are more like a Colt in the handling, and those who frequently use Colts, or Colt copies, prefer the five shot over the transfer action.

The conversion unit installed by Ruger is notorious for its loose "clackety-clack" action, plus having an atrocious trigger pull. And, the converted guns have a hammer that is as ugly as a mud fence. I had A Super Blackhawk converted by Ruger and it had the propensity to skip a chamber when thumb cocked. In all fairness, Hamilton Bowen says that he can tune a Ruger conversion to equal the original action.

When I am shooting on the range, I always load five rounds regardless of the transfer bar or not. Cartridges are placed five in a row in the box, and a fifty round box just comes out even firing five at a time.

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Thumbs up I UNconverted the .41 today

It's interesting to read the pros and cons of the Old Model firing system. Both sides have valid points.

But to me the original 3 clicks of the old model blackhawks and single-sixes are music to my ears and they just feel "solid".

I am very used to loading 5 from my SASS days and have no problem with carrying five when I will be holstering the gun. At the range I load 6 and immediately fire same.

Anyway, during the UNconversion, which went more easily than I had imagined, I found that the gun was missing the PAWL PLUNGER!

The Pawl Plunger Spring was still inside the cylinder frame hole but was not sticking out as it should be if the plunger was in place. Using a small paper clip I was able to pull the spring out easily.

Turning the gun barrel-up vertically and tapping it on my bench did not produce a plunger falling out.

So I guess I'm outta business until MidwayUSA delivers the replacement parts in about a week.

BTW: For those that read my above post on having contacted the seller who had told me that the gun was UNCONVERTED, he has agreed to reimburse me for the OM parts I bought. I am happy with that outcome.

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That was a stand-up move by the seller to cover your new parts. I didn't have the same outcome. The GB seller said the rifle functioned fine, but the extractor on the 22 was broken off. Then additional slap, the seller complained to GB 4 months later that my Postal Money Order wasn't cashable and wanted a second payment.
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Anyway, during the UNconversion, which went more easily than I had imagined, I found that the gun was missing the PAWL PLUNGER!

The Pawl Plunger Spring was still inside the cylinder frame hole but was not sticking out as it should be if the plunger was in place. Using a small paper clip I was able to pull the spring out easily.

Turning the gun barrel-up vertically and tapping it on my bench did not produce a plunger falling out.

Just to be absolutely sure, I'd push that paper clip all the way thru the plunger hole to be certain there isn't a plunger lurking in there. Yes, you'd need to remove the hammer to get the pawl out of the way for a clear probe of the hole in question.

Yeah, I know, but I'm kinda anal about things like that, and ya just never know.

JMHO

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Just to be absolutely sure, I'd push that paper clip all the way thru the plunger hole to be certain there isn't a plunger lurking in there. Yes, you'd need to remove the hammer to get the pawl out of the way for a clear probe of the hole in question.

Yeah, I know, but I'm kinda anal about things like that, and ya just never know.

JMHO
Okay - I did as suggested and there is no plunger in the hole.

Thanks guys!
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