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Old April 12th, 2017, 02:20 AM   #1
 
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Super Blackhawk Pain management (OUCH!)

I have a Super Blackhawk Hunter in .44 magnum over here.

It's a very nice pistol, and a great shooter. I like it!

I've noticed that sometimes (Not always) it will smack my middle finger right on the knuckle when it kicks, and while it doesn't really cause an injury it does hurt a little.

I have tried to figure out what it is that I'm doing when it gets me, so I can stop doing it. So far, I don't have an answer for that.

I think I'm pretty consistent with how I grip the stocks, but apparently not because every now and then it whacks me pretty good.

It's odd, because I can shoot three or four cylinders full out of it with no pain at all and then it feels like somebody beat on my knuckle with a hammer.

Has anybody figured this one out?

What am I doing wrong?

Or even better, when it doesn't hurt what am I doing right?

I know there's a secret here and it sure would be nice to know what it is!




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Old April 12th, 2017, 02:45 AM   #2
 
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I forgot.

Pics or it didn't happen, right?

O.K. Here it is.

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The grip style used by Ruger copies the Colt SA grip frames. Those grips are meant to 'slide' in your hand. I grip magums firmly but not 'gorilla firm'. Let the revolver slide some in your hand.
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It shouldn't slide...

The gun should roll up...

As for hitting your knuckle, I hear this a lot from SBH shooters...However, this is the FIRST time I have ever heard of this from someone shooting a round trigger guard...

This is usually a complaint of people shooting the square back Dragoon style grip frame...

I've never personally hit a knuckle, and can't picture how anyone can ding themselves with either frame shape...

I know it happens, but I just can't wrap my head around why or how it's possible if gripping the gun correctly...

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I just can't wrap my head around why or how it's possible if gripping the gun correctly...
Exactly my point. I don't know why it happens either.

I learned a long time ago that getting good accuracy requires doing the same thing every time. Same grip, same trigger pull, same follow through. I try to be consistent when I shoot.

So, if that's true then it should feel pretty much the same every time I shoot it.

Except it doesn't. Last time I went to the range I shot a box of 50 through this pistol and it whacked me three or four times. (I didn't count. it wasn't a lot of times)

I would sure like to stop doing that all together.
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O.K., I found this on another forum.

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I see you are placing your pinky under the grip. Notice the bit of space you have opened up between the knuckle of your second finger and the rear of the trigger guard. That is good. With heavy recoiling loads, trying to cram one's entire hand onto the grip can press the knuckle against the trigger guard, a sure prescription for a banged up knuckle.
I have never tried putting my pinky finger under the bottom of the grip.

I can see how moving my hand down on the grip might give my knuckle a little more room.

Going to try that for sure.

Anybody got any other advice?
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That High Road advice is just what I was going to mention. Too many SA shooters try to grip higher like a semi auto and get all digits wrapped around the grip. I've been shooting the Ruger 44 since the mid 60's and learned the pinky tuck early on. More than one SBH has been sold or is a museum piece in their vault for the same reason you found painful.
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My .41 magnum Blackhawk would bust a knuckle every now and then. I ended up putting on a set of those giant ugly rubber grips by Hogue, and problem solved. It's not so pretty to look at with them on the gun, but it sure is more enjoyable to shoot!
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It's actually physics.

If your second finger fits snug between the front of the grip and the rear of the trigger guard, it's not likely to hurt. The trigger guard simply "pushes" against your finger.

If there is a gap between them, the trigger guard accelerates and "slams" into your finger - Ouch.

Think of someone that tries to punch with his fist already touching your chest. It's just a shove. When he draws his fist back, it can accelerate and become a punch.

What to I do? On the guns with a gap, I insert my support hand index finger into the gap. Now the trigger guard can't accelerate - no more ouch.
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O.K., I found this on another forum.



I have never tried putting my pinky finger under the bottom of the grip.

I can see how moving my hand down on the grip might give my knuckle a little more room.

Going to try that for sure.

Anybody got any other advice?
I hold pinky under on my Blackhawks.
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My 4-5/8" SBH with the round trigger guard beat the crap out of my knuckles, probably because I've shot 1911's my entire life and I was holding it completely wrong. I did a Bisley conversion on mine and now its a joy to shoot



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I use the pinky under grip to solve that very problem and it works. No, your pinky won't go flying, either.
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Here is my solution to hard kicking magnums:



The grip frame on you Super Blackhawk is the Hunter grip frame, it is identical to mine except for the rounded trigger guard. Your grip is not the same as the "plow handle" grip of the XR-3RED type grip frame of standard Blackhawks.

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My 4-5/8" SBH with the round trigger guard beat the crap out of my knuckles, probably because I've shot 1911's my entire life and I was holding it completely wrong. I did a Bisley conversion on mine and now its a joy to shoot


Yep. The Bisley grip has the smallest space behind the trigger guard and front grip strap of any Ruger grip frame; partly due to its over size trigger guard.

As jnichols2 posted: it's physics. You need a very large space or none at all.

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