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Old April 8th, 2017, 11:14 AM   #1
 
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Two "new" Blackhawks safely at home now

Just got home from picking these two up at my LGS:



Both are XR3-RED grip frames so I swapped out the grips. The .357 now has the .30's wood grips and the .30 will get a set of Hogue rubber-ducky grips (that I have on hand) for the time being (YEAH, I KNOW ).

The rubber Pachmayr grips taken off the .357 will remain uninstalled until I need them for my OM 3-screw flattop .44 mag for hunting purposes.

The .357 has the WIDE hammer and trigger (I guess these are the SHB type ???)



Now I have some questions about factory transfer bar converted OM's:

It has been a very long time since I have cycled a transfer bar converted Ruger and I don't remember exactly how they are supposed to work. Here's what I found on the .30 BH I got today:
  • Upon cocking the hammer I found TWO distinct clicks.
  • 1st click is half cock and allows the cylinder to rotate with or without the loading gate being open.
  • 2nd click is the firing position.
  • With the hammer fully forward simply opening the loading gate does not release the cylinder.





Is this how it is supposed to be? I thought that it would act just like the New Models do - using the loading gate only to release the cylinder.





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Old April 8th, 2017, 12:43 PM   #2
 
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Your 357 is cool.

Someone has installed an old model SBH wide trigger and wide hammer. That was a popular modification back then. Your grip frame needed the trigger slot widened.

Here's an old model 22 single six with SBH hammer, trigger and grip frame I did for a buddy with large hands years ago.



Here's my Old Model 357, SBH hammer, SBH wide trigger, and Ruger Old Army XR3-RED size stainless grip frame that comes with the wide slot and bolts right on to old models with no adaptation needed:





Converted old models do not work like the new models with transfer bar. The action functions the same as before conversion:

1. There is no safety notch on hammer; that's why there's only two clicks.
2. Loading gate is not interlocked with the hammer.
3. Chambers still align with the loading trough on half cock.
4. These work the same as the new model Bearcats which use conversion kits and were not redesigned for the transfer bar like all other Ruger single actions. In fact a NM Bearcat can be converted back to an old model just by using old model action parts!
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We noticed the SBH hammer the other day. It's nice you got the SBH trigger as well. Those are $$$$. Envy, envy, envy!

Excellent scores!


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Will this SBH hammer, and SBH trigger swap over to my OM Flattop .44 if I swap out the grip frame also?

This 357 is a "medium" frame and my 44 is a "large" frame, right?
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Very very nice. I've always liked the Old Models. I'm sure you'll enjoy shooting them.
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Will this SBH hammer, and SBH trigger swap over to my OM Flattop .44 if I swap out the grip frame also?

This 357 is a "medium" frame and my 44 is a "large" frame, right?
YES to both questions!
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Interesting two revolvers. I think if I had the old model guns I would prefer them to be unconverted and handle them appropriately. Will you keep them as is or convert them to old school or new school?
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Interesting two revolvers. I think if I had the old model guns I would prefer them to be unconverted and handle them appropriately. Will you keep them as is or convert them to old school or new school?
They will all stay OLD SCHOOL!

The converted .30 carbine BH is up for sale now...
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