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Old March 8th, 2017, 03:40 PM   #1
 
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Ruger Single Six(old model) Questions

Picked up this Single Six Saturday at an auction. My first SS, and I know very little about them, except for what I've learn from google since I got it.

i know it's a 6.5" old model and i assume it must have been sent in by a previous owner because it has a transfer bar in it. It's not a convertible and the serial # is 354***. Condition is fair, the bluing is worn along left side of barrel. Probably from holstering. And the grip frame is dinged up and scratches where someone was careless with screwdriver removing screws.

So my questions are:

1. Was thinking of touching up the worn bluing and possibly sanding out the dings and scratches on the grip frame, then polishing it. would this hurt or improve the value.

2. Is about the serial# 354***. When looking it up on ruger website, my number falls in between 1962 and 1969. Ruger doesn't list serial#'s or years in between. Anyone have any idea what year this gun would be?

3. Can it be converted back from the transfer bar? Or is it even worth doing?

4. Any info that you guys can tell about this particular gun would be great.

Sorry this got a bit long. Thanks in advance for any help.

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1963 Magnum only model
Original parts do come up for sale once in awhile. To me it wouldn't be worth it.
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1963 Magnum only model
Original parts do come up for sale once in awhile. To me it wouldn't be worth it.
Ruger Single Six Magnum Serial Number History
I did read somewhere that serial #'s that are 3***** are magnums. But this one is not a magnum. And the cylinder has the last three digits of the serial # on the end.
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That one looks pretty good, actually. Congrats on the pickup!

Unfortunately I don't know the story behind the missing serial numbers. However I can tell you that any standard SS with a s/n over 150,000 was bored correctly to be a convertible (i.e. both cylinders).

According to J.C. Munnell, no 6.5" non-convertible single six was ever cataloged so it stands to reason that yours was sold as a convertible. Also, Ruger did not always keep their serial numbers in order. Serial numbers in the 300,000 range had been reserved for the Magnum model of the SS. When it was discontinued, serial numbers were at approximately 340,000 and those numbers were transferred over to the standard SS. That was about 1963 so yours would probably be somewhere in 1964 or 65 (just a guess). If you look on your cylinder you should see the last 3 digits of your s/n either stamped (22LR) or etched (22 WMR) however yours could be stamped even if it is the magnum cylinder.

If I were keeping this as a collector, I would not do anything to the finish. If I were going to carry and shoot it, I might. Then again it doesn't look that bad as it is. Mine look a lot worse The fact that it has already had the transfer bar conversion does change collector value unless you have the original parts that were removed. Usually when Ruger handled a conversion they marked the grip frame 'R' but sometimes they did not. If it is marked 'R' and you do not have the original parts then that will diminish collector value or so I have been told. Also from what I can tell those grips look original.

You can remove the transfer bar but you will have to pick up the parts that are necessary to convert it back. There are seven I think and they are sometimes hard to find. (Hammer, Trigger, Trigger plunger spring, Bolt, Bolt spring, Pawl, Base pin, if I remember correctly).

Hope this helps. It ought to shoot very nicely either way!
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Sorry, I just saw your earlier post about the s/n on the cylinder.
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Sorry, I just saw your earlier post about the s/n on the cylinder.
Thanks for the info peachhead. Since this should be a magnum model. But has the 22 LR cylinder it could've possibly been a convertible, and the magnum cylinder has gone missing. Maybe?


ETA: Sorry, just reread your post where you state that it was possibly sold as a convertible. So in that case, I could buy a magnum cylinder and it would work in this gun?

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No, I didn't say it should be a magnum model - just that the designated magnum model (It is marked 22 WRM caliber, yours is not) was discontinued in 1963 and so Ruger transferred those serial numbers over to the standard Single Six. So yours IS a standard SS (marked 22 cal single six) and more than likely was sold as a convertible; so yes, the magnum cylinder has gone missing. Also more than likely if you picked up an old model magnum cylinder somewhere there is a good chance that it will fit with no problems.

If it were marked 22LR Caliber Single Six then it would NOT be a convertible.
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Dang, I can't edit this post..lol. I meant to add a smiley in there somewhere.
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Dang, I can't edit this post..lol. I meant to add a smiley in there somewhere.

Lol! Thank again for the info, it's been really helpful.
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That's a really nice gun! I wouldn't change a thing. At least .22lr ammo is available pretty much everywhere. The only .22WRM ammo I ever see is Armscor or the Hornady 30gr stuff. Be glad the long rifle cylinder is in it. Get that revolver to the range pronto. You will discover how much fun shooting a light recoiling single-action can be. Every shooter needs a Single Six. My 6.5" OM Super SS Convertible (I keep the .22lr cylinder in it) is one of my very favorite handguns to shoot.
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Collectors for Single Sixes are looking for rare variations, special editions or standard run unconverted (or, at least, converted with original parts) Old Models, new or as new or at least mint, with box and papers and both original cylinders if applicable. That leaves you with a fine example of an Old Model Single Six that will still be a good shooter, but won't have much collector value. Go ahead and enjoy it and fix up as much as you want. If you do, feel free to post some before and after pics. Would make a nice project to share with us.
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Thanks everyone for all the info and advise, really appreciate it.

Did call Ruger this morning just to get all the info they could give me on it.

Here's the email I got back this afternoon.

"Single-Six, serial number 354*** is a RSSMX, blued, 6 barrel, dual cylinders chambered in .22 Long Rifle and .22 W.M.R., RSSMX, produced and shipped in February of 1963, model number 00213."
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Sweet. Quick response! Thanks for the update.

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Great looking gun.
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That's a nice SS you've got there! I'd shoot it and enjoy it.
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