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Old March 22nd, 2010, 06:17 AM   #1
 
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41 versus 44 special

I am on the lookout for a revolver to add to the collection. The largest caliber handgun that I have shot is a 357 blackhawk and gp100. This was in my younger days. I now thought I would like to move up the ladder caliber wise. I am debating on a new 44 special or a older 41 magnum that I found at a dealer. In your opinion which has less recoil. I like the idea of a larger caliber to add to the collection but don't like the thought of 44 magnum type recoil. Can both of these calibers be loaded for lighter plinking loads. Thanks,

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A .41M has less, slightly, recoil than a .44M so if you are recoil shy, there's not a lot of difference. A .41 Special round has about the same ballistics as a .44 Special, BUT try to find some and when (if) it is VERY espensive unless you reload and add to the fact that it takes a .41M at this time to even shoot the special, as no maker I know of has a .41 Special as a production item
That leaves the .44 Special as your best all around choice. It can do about anything you need doing with a hand gun and can be loaded from 'Cowboy' loads (very mild) to some very heavy hitters. Ammo can be had to find, but on line dealers usually will have something. For your 'heavy' loads, Buffalo Bore and Double Tap make some pretty good stuff and Cor-Bon makes some very good SD ammo
With the renewed interest in the .44 Special by Ruger in their Blackhawk 'Flattop' series I should think a .44 Special is you best bet.
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Thanks Batmann, that is just the kind of info I was looking for. In looking at my reloading manuals it looks like I would have more options with the 44 special. I don't do any hunting and it looks like the 41 would be a better option if I did hunt but as this will just be for plinking at the range I will be ordering a new blackhawk in 44 special. I hope my dealer can get me one as I see they have been added as a regular production item by Ruger.

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I agree with the above100%!
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My only question: Which model of Blackhawk do you have your heart set on? If you were to go with a Bisley, you could get it in .44 Mag, and shoot the specials. That way you aren't closing any doors on yourself. Things change, you might want the horsepower, or you might want to sell it. Options are never a bad thing.
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.41 mag

I found that the .41 mag does not seem to have as much of a selection of bullets to choose from to reload. They seem to cost more also. My OM Ruger Blackhawk 6" .41 mag probably shoots better than any of my other Ruger SA. - Glassfixer
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I have a 5" .44 Lipsey Special. It seems to handle better than my .45 Colt/,45 ACP Convertible. It really does not weigh all that much less than my .45 Colt but the smaller frame DOES seem to handle better.

I consider it a Premier choice of handgun - both caliber and revolver. It will NEVER be a bad choice.

This is not saying a THING against the .45 Colt. However, this particular Ruger IS special and it is not just the caliber. To get the best out of either, you REALLY need to reload. In fact, you really need to cast bullets AND reload.

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I picked up a 44 special, it is special, smaller frame just seems to be right to carry and shoot and does it every shoot. If you want it to hunt with it will do most everything you need.
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.44 spl v. .41 mag.

Hi Jazzman,

I was in your frame of mind several weeks ago and, after shooting only .38 spl and .357 mag, decided to try a big bore caliber. For several reasons,I picked the .44 special. I can use only one hand and don't hunt so I had no desire for a .44 magnum. BUT, after buying two dedicated S&W .44 spls, I bought a Ruger Redhawk in .44 magnum; my first Ruger and it's great

Ok, the reasons; 1) I got a S&W .44 spl 396 Night Guard for a big bore, light weight (24.2 oz.) concealed carry gun; 2) a S&W 4" model 21 .44 spl medium weight (37 oz.) for general use and plinking; 3) a 5.5" Redhawk .44 mag (49 oz.) for general use and plinking. I chose the magnum because I reload and can use the extra strength to test new/stouter loads and, as others have said, the option to shoot magnums if I wish and as an extra sale feature if I choose to sell it. 4) I have not had a problem finding .44 special components and found a wide varieties of possible loads that satisfy all my needs. I have .44 mag cases in which to use .44 special loads and light .44 mag. loads.

I considered the .41 magnum but decided components as well as load options were too limited. The .45 Colt is about the same as a .44 special but not as versatile and the moon clips of the .45 acp would be difficult for me to use one handed.

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I think a 44 Special Blackhawk would be a nice gun. I handled one yesterday. It would be a good way to go if you won't be hunting with it. A Bisley in 45 Colt would be a great choice too.
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A .41 magnum has far more recoil than a .44 special. I don't find much difference between the .41 and the .44 magnum recoil wise, maybe if your are using factory loads, but in handloads there isn't much to choose between,

Reloading is the path to getting the most out of a .41, there aren't a huge amount of choices in bullets, but there are enough different types to do anything I will ever need it to do. I have found it to be the most accurate cartridge in my Blackhawks.
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>>>I think a 44 Special Blackhawk would be a nice gun. I handled one yesterday. It would be a good way to go if you won't be hunting with it.<<<

I freely admit that all of my deer have been taken with .44 Magnums. However, that said, the .44 Special in the Ruger Blackhawk actually will do fine deer hunting at woods ranges. It is no great trick to safely load a 250 gr Keith cast bullet at 1200 fps. A 250 Keith at 1200 fps will shoot through a large whitetail deer end for end at reasonable ranges. That'll take care of a LOT of hunting, IMO. The properly loaded, and handled, .44 Special will do just fine on deer, hogs and black bear.

Just a comment or two...

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Alot of the problems with the 41 is getting components. That being said, I load mine down to 44spl speed and love it. I shoot for fun, not to see how fast I can make the bullet fly. But then again, I have a 44spl, a 41mag(2), 45C/45acp, and 44mag(2) so, thank GOD, I don't have to choose.
Recoil is so subjective, you have to try them all. Don't you love that?
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If you don't like the .44 mag, you probably won't like the .41 - not a whole lot of difference.

Like Dale said the .44 Special can be loaded from mild to wild. From Cowboy Action Shooting to deer hunting.

A good source of .44 Special is Reed's Ammo. He makes several different loads.

Another alternative would be a .45 Colt. The standard, non +P loads are about equal to the .44 Special, but harder to find. Most loads are either wimpy Cowboy loads, or what you'd use in Jurasic Park. Again Reed's Ammo has regular loads to +P stuff.

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