jggonzalez357

I'm planning to get a stainless Bisley grip frame and stash it away for a later conversion on a stainless Super Single-Six. Is the Bisley grip frame used on the Super Single-Six Bisleys the same as the Bisley grip frame used on the Bisley Blackhawks and Bisley Vaqueros? I know they also came out with a stainless Bisley New Vaquero. Is that also the same grip?

I know the conversion is a clumsy route to go, but I'm in California and used guns are scarce. Also, gun dealers charge $100 to process an out-of-state gun so gunbroker and similar sites are out. I'm thinking I'll stash the frame for now and pick up a regular stainless Super Single-Six later on.

Thanks,

Joe

medicdave

All new model grip frames are interchangable (except for the new xr3-lock may not match up). Should be good to go w/ the bisley..>Dave

txn63

I did the Bisley conversion on a 5.5 inch stainless Single Six and it makes for a great shooting and fun practice gun for my larger Bisleys. The grip frame, grips, trigger and screws are all the same as the large frame guns. The only part that is different for the Single Six is the hammer and it was the only part that I could not find in stainless so I used the part for a blued gun. Except for the blueing on top of the hammer, which is easily removed, I can't tell the difference. It has become my most used gun for practice at the range and fun in the field.

jggonzalez357

Thanks for the advice. I'm really looking forward to getting this set up. Its going to take a while, but I'm saving my nickels and pennies...

BlkHawk73

Stainless Single Six Bisley hammers are rare. Use a steel one and polish it and you won't be able to really tell the difference. If you're going from a model with the internal lock, you'll also need a new hammer strut and it's seat. You'll also be best off to get the locator pin, and the trigger spring retaining pin for the new grip frame. The Bisley grip frame also needs the different upper three screws, the hex head ones.

jggonzalez357

Here's the reply I got from Ruger:

"You will need the grip frame(KBR00300), hammer(KBR04000B), trigger(KBR03901), grip panels (70051), and two grip frame screws (KBR01801). At this time, the grip frame is out of stock, you may want to try in a couple of weeks. The parts need to finished and fit to the gun by a gunsmith. You can call our parts department at 603-865-2442, with your serial number and they will supply the parts you need.

If you need further information, please visit our website at www.ruger.com or contact us at:

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Sincerely,
Ruger Firearms"

I don't have the Single-Six yet, but I'm hoping to get the grip frame and stash it for later in case they become hard to find. Ruger's response sounds like the hammer for the stainless Bisley Vaquero would fit on a Single-Six.

BlkHawk73

The hammer for the larger frames isn't going to fit the Single Six I don't think. You'd need the Single Six Bisley hammer I'd think. The trigger isn't a must as the standard trigger will work also. The grip frames from Ruger won't have the locator pin nor the retaining pin I mentioned above. Rather than trying and pound them out of your current frame, spend the couple dollars and buy new ones. As for grip panels, you can get those many places for less than directly from Ruger. keep in mind the stainless ones are slightly oversized from the steel ones so grips won't be a 100% perfect fit. if it's a worthy project, maybe a nice set of fitted grips would be a better choice. I use Klamath River but there's others.

jggonzalez357

Yeah, looks like I'll have to watch out for that. These are the part numbers I found in the Ruger parts booklets:

BR04000B - Hammer Assembly, All Bisleys (.22lr version)
BRO3901 - Trigger, All Bisleys (.22lr version)

BRO4001B/KBR04001B - Hammer Assembly, All Bisleys (Centerfire version)
BRO3901/KBRO3901 - Trigger, All Bisleys (Centerfire version)

Looks like there is a difference between the rimfire and centerfire hammers. The reply I got from Ruger used the "K" prefix on the .22lr hammer, so maybe there's a stainless version. If not, I'll use a blued one.

Are you sure on the grip dimensions? If so, I'll probably ask Esmeralda if she can custom fit a set if I send her the grip frame. I think a custom .22lr stainless Bisley would be worth it. I know Ruger produced a few out of the factory, but I have yet to see one for sale at a price I can afford. I figure doing it piecemeal is about the only way I'm going to get my hands on one. (Its a little more fun too!)

Thanks everyone! All of you have really made me feel welcome on this forum!

jggonzalez357

I just e-mailed Ruger about the dimensions of the stainless vs. blued Bisley frame. They said they were identical. Hopefully that will make things easier. I have my eye on a set of Grashorn grips in Elk when I'm able to get this project off the ground.

BlkHawk73

basically, yes, they're both the same size. Grips for one will fit the other but in the it does seem the stainless ones are just ever so slightly larger. It's only a big deal to those that have the insistence that grips fit 110% perfectly. Have 8 stainless bisleys here and a bunch of blued ones. grips interchange but the stainless ones will have a different fit for a given pair of grip panels than when the same panels are on a steel frame. If you're going aftermarket and able to have them fitted it's not a big deal.
Have 3 or 4 BH's that have gone the Bisley route with both brass and stainless grip frames. Any specifics, send 'em this way. Happy to help.