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Old December 25th, 2015, 11:37 AM   #61
 
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I don't have a .41 magnum. I did have one and sold it like a jerk.
The .41 is flatter shooting than the .44 Magnum and has lots of
power with less recoil. If you shot one you would get to liking it.
It's perfect for shooting deer.

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Old December 27th, 2015, 11:38 AM   #62
 
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I would like to see the range that has 41 Magnum brass lying about (or the fool who doesn't appreciate its value enough to keep it). I think most people are going to have to factor in cost per case. Then there is bullet, primer, powder, and amortization of your equipment.
Range is at my home town where 3 of the Local Police carry .41 mag. After they qualify I can generally pick up 2-3 hundred pieces. I have collected 3/4 of a five gallon bucket over the last few years.

Even if you figure in cost of brass. Starline sells it for $100.50 for 500 pieces. That figures to a touch over .20 per piece. If a fellow can't get 20 loads out of Starline, he needs to change his reloading technique. So I guess we could add another penny to that 8-10 cents a round and make that 9-11 cents a round. Still a good bit cheaper than a dollar a round.
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Range is at my home town where 3 of the Local Police carry .41 mag. After they qualify I can generally pick up 2-3 hundred pieces. I have collected 3/4 of a five gallon bucket over the last few years.

Even if you figure in cost of brass. Starline sells it for $100.50 for 500 pieces. That figures to a touch over .20 per piece. If a fellow can't get 20 loads out of Starline, he needs to change his reloading technique. So I guess we could add another penny to that 8-10 cents a round and make that 9-11 cents a round. Still a good bit cheaper than a dollar a round.
Makes good sense but I was thinking that 500 cases (min order) x 20 uses is 10k rounds, certainly more 41 Magnum than I ever expect to shoot. I might want to think about a formula that better reflects the actual value derived from 500 pieces. I just ordered the 500 piece minimum of 41 Special and expect to die with hundreds that never got used.
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Ahhhh - .41 Remington Magnum - the love affair continues.
Bought my first one (Blackhawk 6.5") in Lawton, OK back in '71 (Ft Sill was "home" at the time). Bought the second one (another 6.5" Blackhawk) when I got back to Ft Bragg in '72.
Still have'm both. Have added a couple of S&W 657's, a Taurus, and an 1894 Marlin CCL. It's definitely my "go to" revolver round, just have to decide which one gets to go.
Keith's 220 gr. SWC (Lyman 410549) has been my favorite bullet for years - solid or HP, doesn't matter - always been a one shot deal. The Marlin likes the Saeco 4102FF, it's a RNFP plain base bullet - but very accurate and hits like the hammer of Thor.
Yup - .41 mag - once you try it, you'll stay with it!

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I just got a 41 Blackhawk 6.5" barrel. Have 60 rounds of the Speer Factory load 210 gold dot DCHP bullets. A friend reloads and says he will make me some to "match" if I can get the brass and bullets ect.. Found the Speer 210 heads and wondering what powder and grains should be used to get factory load performance from it as the guy I got it form has these bullets for years from it w great hunting results. So I am a novice and would prefer to stay w what has worked for him as he is accomplished hand gun hunter. All input appreciated Thanks
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Speer Bullets - Product Details

The ammo for 41 Magnum has been discontinued, but the 210 GDHP was rated on Midway as follows:

Muzzle Velocity: 1280 fps
Muzzle Energy: 764 ft-lbs

To match that performance, you would be trying to duplicate that performance rating, ideally with some knowledge of the powder formerly used by Speer.

The Federal Fusion (same corp family) jacketed soft point HP that is also discontinued is rated on Midway as follows:

Muzzle Velocity: 1230 fps
•Muzzle Energy: 705 ft. lbs.

Based on Speer's load data in Speer #14, you would be using near max of H110/W296 to achieve those velocities.

Alliant loads show a max of A2400 w/6" Barrel achieving that velocity range. The 1999 Alliant table shows a max load of Unique being close in velocity, noting that it was with an "8 inch" barrel.

I use Enforcer, but it and some other choices like Hodgdon's A2400 and H110 are rated with 10" barrels, exaggerating velocity somewhat when near max pressure loads.

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@ at liberty, Speer tech rep of course would not specify the powder used by them. (silly since they are no longer in production, why keep secrets??? ) But he gave me some recommendations from their #14 reload manual, which I nor my friend who is nice enough to reload some for me has. But, per some notes he has, H110 20.5-21.5gr w Mag Primer gets ya close to that factory spec. 1237-1265 muzz velocity w 6.5" revolver.

I know its not exact science since crimping ect.. can be slightly different but juts trying to come close as guy I bought it from has been very happy w those factory boxes of Speer 210gr so not trying to reinvent the wheel w my limited budget and knowledge.
Also note, not trying to kill chipmunks, mainly whitetail deer and other unwanted varmits.

Thanks to any and all who reply for help to a "newbie" to pistols and reloading. 45yrs of hunting and outdoors experiences so maybe I can return the help at some point.
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It's a first rate caliber offering 90% of a .44 Magnum's capabilities but has a few drawbacks. Ya gotta be a handloader for it, or have hit the lottery because ammunition is hard to find and expensive when you do. It's not an obsolete caliber, but you have to be a bit of an odd caliber gun-crank to fall in love with it.

I load for my two (a S&W M57 and Ruger's excellent limited production Flat Top)and also cast bullets for them keeping costs minimal. Good dies, and molds are readily available. And too, I've found it really easy to load superb ammunition, in that regard, it's very similar to the .44 Special. Both of mine will produce sub-2" gps at 25 yds from a rest on demand. My son's NMBH does even better...check the pic of his 6-1/2" NM below and some of the targets we've shot with it.

Guns for it seem to be a bit heavier than .44 Magnums in the same model and barrel length...that's due to the smaller amount of metal bored out of cylinder and barrel...but nevertheless, they balance very well indeed...especially the Ruger 4-5/8" barreled BH's.

From a hunter standpoint, it's a keeper, every bit as good in my experience as the .44 Magnum.

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17.5gr of 2400 under a 215gr LSWC clocks 1320fps from the Hunter & 9.2gr of Unique pushes a 240gr Keith 1270fps from 'er.
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I own 2 both blued, one has the 4.62 inch barrel and the other is the 6.5 inch model. The 6.5 inch model is my most recent purchase, and is new to me.
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I'll take a .41 over the mighty .429 magnum everyone calls a .44 anyway. [/QUOTE]

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Ridin' the range just for fun,
Totin' my old 41.

That's why it still just limps along.
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