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Old March 30th, 2015, 08:19 PM   #1
 
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Question Super Blackhawk 44 killing my hand

Hey everyone, just picked up my new Ruger Blackhawk 44 mag stainless.

Took it out to the range today, started with 240gr cowboy action loads, and they were unpleasant. Shot one cylinder and moved to the 340gr buffalo bore bear rounds, since its my bear protection up here in alaska. First shot, two handed, handle dug back into my palm and drew blood. Second shot, 1 handed and also very painful. Squared off trigger guard is bashing my knuckles.

Am I holding it too tight, or wrong? I also have a 454 Ruger Alaskan, and while it also hurts, it was not this bad. Of course it had a soft grip.
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Hey everyone, just picked up my new Ruger Blackhawk 44 mag stainless.

Took it out to the range today, started with 240gr cowboy action loads, and they were unpleasant. Shot one cylinder and moved to the 340gr buffalo bore bear rounds, since its my bear protection up here in alaska. First shot, two handed, handle dug back into my palm and drew blood. Second shot, 1 handed and also very painful. Squared off trigger guard is bashing my knuckles.

Am I holding it too tight, or wrong? I also have a 454 Ruger Alaskan, and while it also hurts, it was not this bad. Of course it had a soft grip.
Lewi, try a "Past" shooting glove. Did the trick on my Ruger Super RedHawk in .454 Casull shooting near max loads. Worth a try. That and some Hogue rubber grips.
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I don't have much to add other than my neighbor had one and had similar problems. Hopefully the Glove and Grips idea will be a solution for you.
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I really don't want to change the grips because I like the classic look...
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You have a choice. Change to a better recoil absorbing grip. Quit shooting the hi end rounds. Live with the pain. If you need it for bear protection, I would quit worrying about the "classic" look.
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I have no idea if this method is correct, but it worked for me the other day when my buddy brought his Super Redhawk to the range with 44+P+ Buffalo Bore rounds. They are, to say the least, very hot rounds.

He does have the Hougue monogrips.

First shot about dang near drew blood on the back of my palm and tourqed the wrist pretty good. I then realized I was really holding that grip tight. I actually loosened my grip a bit and let the gun "roll" with the recoil. It worked. Subsequent shots were better. Accuracy was acceptable.

The key was letting the gun roll.

I like the classic look too but you may need to compromise on the grip.
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Lewi I have the same problem bashing knuckles with the dragoon frame. Never had one tear my palm up though.

Some things to look at:

1) Fit of grips to grip frame. I haven't had a new Ruger in a while that had properly fitting grips. If there's a seem between the grip frame and the grips it'll get ya quick. Here's some before and afters. Notice how proud the metal was to the grips before and how they melt together after.









2) The Dragoon frame may just not be for you. No matter what I try I get bashed knuckles. May look into swapping to a xr3-red, hunter or Bisley frame. The shorty above has the red, the hunter is a bisley, and an unfit hunter frame is below. Don't mind the fitting of the grips I won't fit the frame down to the grips untill the frames fit to a gun. The hunter is a dragoon frame with a round trigger guard.



3) Grip strength. Everyone's different on this. I like a grip like a firm handshake that lets the gun roll, others advocate choking the sh*t out of it. Have to experiment and see what works for you. If your unable to control the gun with your current amount of hand strength, there are grip strengthening tools availible in sporting goods stores.

4) Experiance. If the Super is your first heavy kicking single action you need to work your way up the recoil ladder. I made the mistake of buying a super as my first single action many moons ago and trying to run full power ammo through right away. Might ruffle some feathers but I look at the 44 magnum and heavy 45 colts as the revolver equivelent of the 375 h&h in a rifle. It's the most recoil an average experianced shooter can learn to handle reliably. I can shoot larger calibers but not as well as my 44, just as it look a lot of practice to learn to shoot my 458 lott, but still not as well as my 375. Start your practice with light 44 special loads and you'll know when your ready for more recoil.

Hope this helps.
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If you have a .454 Alaskan, why get a .44 mag for bear protection? Anyway, I am guessing (since I have never been attacked by a bear) that you won’t notice how the pistol hurts your hand should you find yourself in that situation. But I agree with the other posters, wear a glove if you don’t want to change the grips.
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I really don't want to change the grips because I like the classic look...
I agree and that is an additional reason why I am going with a 45LC.

But there again, I won't be needing it for Bear, lol.

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I haven't done this conversion, myself, but I do know guys that have gone with a Bisely conversion on their dragoon frame guns for the sake of getting rid of that &%$#@ trigger guard spur and getting more comfort when shooting heavy loads. Might be something to consider.
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I have never had the dragoon style Super Blackhawk. I did have the Blackhawk Hunter once and hayed the plow handle ( I always had to re-grip the gun after every shot ).
I ended up selling it and bought the Bisley grip, Love the Beasley grip. Nothing to bang the knuckles and the pistol does not roll in my hand anymore. You're hand and wrist takes all the recoil.
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"... 240gr cowboy action loads, and they were unpleasant."

If the cowboy competition loads were unpleasant in that weight gun then it could be your grip. Try letting it roll up a bit in recoil.
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Thanks everyone for the feedback. I will take it out again and experiment with my grip before I panic too much. Thinking I should have maybe got the SBH Blue Bisley...
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I experienced the same thing when I bought my SBH in the early 1980's. I bought pachmayr's and problem solved. A bigger problem was, I was shooting high with the rear sight bottomed out. Rather than mess with a higher front sight I had it D&T'ed and put a red dot on it. Mine is a dedicated handgun hunting handgun so looks aren't as important as accuracy.

With your goals in mind, it sounds like your only option is a glove. Don't know if you can get by with a pair of all leather gloves that will increase you gripping ability or not? Worth a trip to he local hardware store or garden center to see.
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Hogue grips on my SBH made a significant difference in felt recoil.
but i switched to a wood grip bc i just didn't like the look of the Hogue.
now I just suck it up and take the pain, although I never draw blood.
I never shoot hot loads like buffalo bore, but do shoot full factory loads and light factory loads.
and its tolerable to a point. (on my hand and wallet)

I agree with loosening up the grip, just a bit.
think of it like suspension on a car, when you drop it and stiffen the frame and shocks/struts, the result is a stiff ride and you can feel all the bumps, and sometimes its not too pleasant.
compared to a not so low ride, and not so stiff frame and shocks, the ride is much more tolerable.
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