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Old August 10th, 2016, 11:44 PM   #1
 
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Hey folks I've gotten my self in to a skeet habit. I started with a CZ Sporter G2 but I am already looking for an up grade. I was wondering if anyone has had experience with the Caesar Guerini adjustable high rib guns. I am leaning towards the Summit Impact 30". I look forward to your insight and opinions.



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Hey There RedHawker44.
Skeet Habit no, more like an Addition. And it's so Easy to get Hooked on.
I don't have any experience with the Guerini Shootguns.
I do have a Browning Citori that I really like using.
Was shooting 3 times a week and sometimes on Sunday's.
Addicted, Yep you got it ! It's not hard to do.
If the Guerini is what you want then You will not be Happy until you have it.
Way, way, way out of My Price Range. Hope ya don't get one....
Remember the High Price stuff misses just the same as the Low end stuff.
Good Luck
Will post a flick of the old Browning, later today.
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For skeet? You may have to rethink the 30" tubes part of the equation? The longest barrels I ever took to a registered skeet field were 23" and of my own creation. Seems I ended up with a "high end" Felix Sarasqueta custom trap gun for trap doubles. Besides all of the engraving and mega butt pad and fancy wood stock and forend, the gun had 32" barrels choked full and full. Not your first pick when it comes to a skeet gun, but the owner didn't know a thing about it nor its relative value (nor did I at the time) so I got it cheap and went to work.

I didn't like the LOP so I sawed off the stock to a very short LOP of 12". For some reason I do better with a short stocked gun? Go figure with my 6' 2" height and normal length arms?? Next was the barrel. I had a certain amount that had to come off and the only other factor (besides being over 18" to be legal) was to cut it right at a rib post for bead mounting and even muzzle milling. That ended me up with the above mentioned 23" tubes. I shot for years and many, many (too many to count) cases of 12 gauge ammunition with that gun in both 12 gauge and doubles events. Best of luck to you on your purchase and subsequent skeet shooting, but do you have a hack saw? Really (do you have a hack saw???). Smithy.
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Wow, 23" barrel?
Good for you, it worked for you.
The Browning that I have is a 30" long barrel with 1" long Rhino Choke Tubes.
That stretched it out to 31" for me. And for me it works just fine.
See how you get 2 extremely different Shotguns that work just fine under different circumstances.
True Story -
Was shooting one nite and was shooting with an Old Timer.
He had a Browning that was a 28" barrel said He cut it down to 26" barrel, had the barrels tapped out to use the regular choke tubes in it. He never said what size they were.
He asked if He could try the Browning that I had said Sure.
Next 2 rounds were doubles and He hit all of them, He looked at me and said Thank's with a pleasant Smile on His Face and said He think's it was one of the Biggest Mistakes He had done by Cutting Down the Length of the Barrels.
Just goes to show you how different thing's workout for different reasons.
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RedHawker44, Before you spend a dime, do some research and talk to older skeet shooters. Although 30" barrels may work for trap, they would be pretty grim for skeet where the most common barrel lengths are 20" in an over/under with a very short action block. This allows the shotgun to swing very easily whereas a 30" barrel would just be too unwieldy. Further, since one piece plastic wads and screw-in chokes became popular, 30" barrels no longer have an advantage for goose hunting or trap shooting. Take a few minutes and read an article I posted in the Forum Library titled "Shotgun Chokes and Related Issues". Here's a link: http://rugerforum.net/library/83808-...ed-issues.html
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Wow, 23" barrel?
Good for you, it worked for you.
The Browning that I have is a 30" long barrel with 1" long Rhino Choke Tubes.
That stretched it out to 31" for me. And for me it works just fine.
See how you get 2 extremely different Shotguns that work just fine under different circumstances.
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I don't know how you get such long barrels swung around so fast in the game of skeet. Of course I did mention that I shot the event of doubles and regardless of other shoot events they always seemed to offer doubles in the prelim's. So I was often seen at 410 and 28 gauge events solely to shoot the prelim. of doubles (which of course a 12 gauge is allowed). My first skeet gun was a 28" modified Remington 1100. Moving over from the trap fields one shoot day to the old codgers shooting skeet, they welcomed me with open arms. I went about that first round only hitting four of the 25 targets presented. Dang, but I liked the challenge.

Next a shooter present offered me use of his over and under with 26" tubes. I proceeded to hit 16 of 25 my very next round and was hooked for life. I asked about the gun as I'd never heard of a Perazzi shotgun??? When I found out that I was holding around $10,000.00 worth of shotgun, I froze and immediately asked for the owner to retrieve it prior to me dropping it. I then asked a more economical starter gun for skeet and was told that my 1100 is often seen on the skeet fields, but with shorter barrels and a more open choke. That night was my very first hacksaw encounter with a shotgun. That one (again due to laws and the nearest vent rib post) came in a 21" and the stock was OK for me at it's present length (no 1" butt pad).

The following week and my third round of skeet with my home brew skeet gun and I hit 23 of the 25 and had gone straight until station seven. What a rush and I found my secret. Cheap guns buzzed off to a short swingable length. That's what lead to the sawed off trap special I first posted about. Look at the SASS fellows. All of their doubles are 20" or less due to the nature of the presented targets and the need to hurry along the course both in and outside of building fronts. Short just made sense. I'd love to see a video of you smashing clays with that long barrel to be sure. Smithy.
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RedHawker44, I had a Caesar Guerini, that I got for shooting sporting clays, but decided to sell it. The Guerini is a beautiful shotgun and mine was fitted by Orvis Sandonona in Milbrook, NY, back when I lived there. It was a 12 gauge, O/U, with 28" barrels. After using it for a while, I found it a too heavy and not quite balanced.
I was lucky to sell it for what I paid and bought a Beretta, 12 ga. O/U, with 26" barrels which I prefer, not quite as pretty, but I shoot it well and that's what counts.
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For skeet? You may have to rethink the 30" tubes part of the equation? The longest barrels I ever took to a registered skeet field were 23" and of my own creation....
This was my first thought too.

I have a Remington Model 870 from the '60's and when I shot skeet went to a 26" skeet barrel. You won't need a choke.

My choice for a skeet gun would be a Winchester Model 101 for skeet.
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