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Old November 23rd, 2008, 09:17 PM   #106
 
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I've enjoyed this thread. I have a Mossberg 500 I purchased Ten years ago for $100. It has the Select-a-choak? dingle hopper at the end of the barrel, which I find unattractive, but it shoots well.

I keep it loaded with some old Buckshot (the paper kind) I found in my Grandfathers house after he passed. I fired one just to see if it was still good and it was!



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Old November 30th, 2008, 05:26 PM   #107
 
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I just picked up a Remington 870 Express 18" barrel and synthetic stock with the mag extender for an 8 round capacity. The local Cabela's had it for $339 and Remington has a $30 rebate going on so it was $50 cheaper than the Mossberg 590 that I checked out at the local Big-5.

I've read a lot about what ammo to keep in it and I got some great advice from one of the Cabela's sales staff who was also a reserve LEO. He said that pretty much any of the reduced recoil loads from Federal or Remington in 00 buck will work fine for HD where there is some distance between houses.

He also said that the duty load in the 870 in his car was first two rounds of 00 buck followed by slugs. With the open choke this 870 has, even 00 buck will have a pattern about the size of a softball or grapefruit at 15 feet.

Have to do a complete cleaning and get some ammo and hit the range to check out patterns and felt recoil. I don't have any real plans for a light or assorted ueber-tactical stuff for now. And I probably won't load beyond 5 or 6 rounds so I can keep the muzzle fairly light if I have to sweep anything.
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He said that pretty much any of the reduced recoil loads from Federal or Remington in 00 buck will work fine for HD where there is some distance between houses.
Bear in mind that the firearms/ammo needs of a LEO are very different that those of a private citizen. Many times the Cops NEED to shoot through things to get to the bad guys, something that is totally counter to what most home owners might be faced with, especially the legal ramifications after any shooting incidents.

High penetration rounds, like slugs and 00 Buck, that are fired inside a dwelling are going to go through ANY rock and stud interior walls. Will you, with any amount of confidence, be able to know for certain what's on the other side of that wall when you pull the trigger?

At room length distances my opinion is that smaller shot is the way to go, especially from a liability standpoint. Of course once you step out into the front yard the rules change quite a bit, as does the question of your intent.
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Right now I've got a Mossberg 500 in 20 gauge with an 18" barrel and a weapon light. It's loaded with Winchester #3 Buck. It's a very light and handy rig. If you wonder if 20 gauge is enough check this out:

http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot22.htm
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i have a remington 870 18" bbl, extend mag tube, pistol grip, surefire rail system with kights armament forward grip and surefire light with daniel defense offset light mount on my rail system.
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Winchester 1300 Defender, 18.5" 12 Ga., 7+1, side packer and Butler Creek folding stock with pistol grip.
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Folding stocks and pistol grips (and slings) have no place on a defensive shotgun. Read Ayoob's "Stressfire" book on the combat shotgun, and you'll see how it's easier to disarm someone with a pistol grip shotgun, as opposed to a regular stocked gun.
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At one time I was considering a home defense shotgun and saved these sites as favorites. You might find this interesting reading.
http://www.endtimesreport.com/homedefense.html
http://www.gunsandammomag.com/long_guns/hdsh_103106/
http://xavierthoughts.blogspot.com/2...-shotguns.html
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I love queries like this. Winchester 1300 Defender for me, stuffed with 3" steel T-shot.
That's 56 .20" steel balls. At any kind of short range, it's a shredder! I feel better control using the factory stock.
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Thumbs up Where to buy?

JLeslie, Sounds like I need some of thoses. Where can one buy them. I don't reload for shotguns. Brand name and part number would be cool.
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Hey GREGG, Federal makes them for downing high flying geese (or low flying Cessna's) I think Remchester's also makes them. I believe T sized shot was long discontinued until the advent of mandatory steel for waterfowl hunting. I'm thinking this stuff will give much better odds of connecting with the "target", with the less dense steel's reduced likelyhood to pass through the outside walls of a house. JL
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JLeslie,Thanks I'll give it a look see. It's a start. Gregg
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I live in So.Cal. so my options may be limited. What scatter gun would be best for me. It would only be if some one is trying to get in and I'm not home. I have a breakaway 4-10 but that is only one shot. I want something easy for mama. I want something inexpensive but reliable.
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I live in So.Cal. so my options may be limited. What scatter gun would be best for me. It would only be if some one is trying to get in and I'm not home. I have a breakaway 4-10 but that is only one shot. I want something easy for mama. I want something inexpensive but reliable.
Mossberg makes (or at least used to make) a short-barrel 20 ga pump shotgun. I think it was sold under the Persuader name. In any case, a good 20 ga load can be a similar stopper as a 12 ga. In 20 ga, the #3 buckshot is a good defensive load, as is the #6 birdshot magnum.
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