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Old May 23rd, 2008, 06:33 PM   #91
 
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My primary "go to" shotgun is a Remington 870 Express 12 ga. with 20" riflesighted IC choked barrel. It's got a factory +2 extension and I've swapped out the follower for a Scattergun Tech extended hi viz follower. Stocks have been replaced with Speedfeed II's. It wears a sling and a 5 round buttcuff full of Brenneke KO slugs.

It is loaded right now with 4 Federal LE 00 buck (with flitecontrol wad) followed by 2 Brenneke's.

I like rifle sights on a defensive shotgun. They don't slow me down with buckshot and they allow more precise placement of slugs out to 50-75 yds. Doubt I'll ever need that, but if the zombies come and all.............

I've got a couple of other scatterguns in the safe.

A Mossberg 500 with 18" LE Accuchoke barrel. Makes a handy HD gun and woods gun for deer/turkey, etc.

An 11-87SP with a Choate +3 extension and follower and 21" beadsighted remchoke barrel. (gonna swap this barrel out for a riflesighted remchoke version soon).

Plus a couple of other field guns.........Mossberg 835 3.5" magnum.........Remington 31 Improved cylinder 26" pump (was my granddads).
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Just a plain old synthetic stocked Mossy 500 with an 18 1/2" barrel, loaded with Federal low recoil 00 Buck. I installed factory Ghostring sights and added an elastic shell cuff on the stock. Simple and effective.
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870 pump with 00 buck works just fine!
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Remington came out with a sweet 870 tactical in 20ga a few months back. It has an adjustable Knox stock, pistol grip and a teflon type finish. Keep #2 buckshot in it, which has plenty of knock down without going into the house next door. Have had this out on the range and it shreads targets at 15 to 20 feet. Best of all, it was under $400.

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Well I took the Mossberg out for its inaugeral shots this afternoon. Set up a paper over plywood at 25 yards.

The 7.5 left most of themselves at the surface of the wood, not even enough penetration to bury themselves. I certainly would not rely on them for a home defense, as I have read some people do.
The problem is the range you tested at. In a home defense scenario you would most likely be firing at ranges that are "room" sized, i.e. 15' or less. Try the number 7.5 at that range and see what it does! It's characteristic that 7.5 dumps it's energy so fast that makes it's MUCH safer for your neighbors and property if you have to shoot, but it's definately NOT for ranges beyond 10 yards, preferably closer than 10 yards.

If your planning on shooting someone with a scattergun at 25 yards I would imagine that most of the shot will be deposited in the backs of the perps as they run away from the boom?
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Remington 870 12ga. w/18" rifle sighted barrel, factory mag extension, side saddle, speedfeed reduced length of pull stock, jumbo head safety and surefire dedicated light mount forend. Loaded with Federal H132 00 Buckshot with Remington slugs available on the sidesaddle.

This is my go to home defense long gun.
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I was thinking that one of the short BBL "Coach Gun" doubles would be a nasty little house shotgun. I wouldn't want one with ears on it just a little single trigger double.
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Mossberg 590 with 00 buckshot. I do not like loading to capacity (8 rounds) so I mounted a 6 round side saddle for easy reloading.
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Hi again Heavy,

Personally for home defense I like something a bit lighter than buckshot. Depends how densely populated the area is in which your home is situated. Buckshot for instance will penetrate a passing vehicle injuring/killing the occupants whereas no 7 shot will irrepairably damage an intruder at 10 paces, or at 3 paces through a door or window, while being totally incapable of penetrating even a lightskinned vehicle at 15 paces.

8 shots to my mind seems ample, except here in South Africa we get them in groups of ten to fifteen at a time nowadays. Then my Ruger Mini 14 with 20 round magazines come in to action. That way I do not have to reload a tube but only change magazines.

My Browning HP in 9x19 has succeeded in keeping me alive (though not unpunctured) against AK47 wielding aggressors. I must add that I keep 3x13 round magazines handy.

For a woman, I agree with your choice of a shotgun, but with lighter shot. It has more projectiles in it, and it tends to finish the BG off before he has time to speak a lie. You have the satisfaction of seeing him take his last gasp before he is bled totally dry.
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Personally for home defense I like something a bit lighter than buckshot. Depends how densely populated the area is in which your home is situated. Buckshot for instance will penetrate a passing vehicle injuring/killing the occupants whereas no 7 shot will irrepairably damage an intruder at 10 paces, or at 3 paces through a door or window, while being totally incapable of penetrating even a lightskinned vehicle at 15 paces.
You live in an area in which push has come to shove more recently than it has hereabouts, so yours is definitely the voice of firsthand experience. Just one minor addition: your climate is a bit warmer than some other places, so the likelihood of a BG wearing a heavy leather coat is a little lower than it would be here in Oregon. Seven-and-a-halfs, at 0.1" in diameter, work okay on pheasants (I actually prefer #6, 0.11", even in that context), but they will expend so much of their momentum on heavy garments that they won't penetrate the perp very well. A couple of high-based rounds might knock somebody off his feet, but he'd most likely get back up. If there's any chance at all that the intruder will be wearing something heavier than a cotton shirt, I'd start my evaluation at #4 buck (0.24" in diameter) and work up as needed.

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8 shots to my mind seems ample, except here in South Africa we get them in groups of ten to fifteen at a time nowadays. Then my Ruger Mini 14 with 20 round magazines come in to action. That way I do not have to reload a tube but only change magazines.
The matter-of-factness of that that chills me. We have friends who moved to SA from Oregon a few years back, and although they put on a brave face for us when they're able to come up and visit, they can't avoid letting little things slip from time to time about the deteriorating situation there. I wish 'em well, and he has a really good job there, but I wonder every time they leave here whether we'll see them again.
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Being in a highly builtup area with plenty people around, I prefer # 7 or # 9 clay pigeon shot in a 12 gauge pump. It will blow a BG out the door with a mortal wound without taking my neighbour out behind his bedroom wall. This shot will not even penetrate a light car body at 20 yards but will take a leg clean off at 5. When hit in the central body mass it stops all life immediately.
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Youre right about that "body armour" thats why the 2nd shot goes for about just below the hip.
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FWIW I thought I would add this to the thread for those that own Mossberg 88's.

My dad and I went shopping the pawn shops last week and got pretty lucky and managed to pick him up a lightly used Mossberg 500, looks new almost. I looked the gun over for him and, since we were there anyway and I don't own a shotgun... I proposed that we would be willing to take two of them home for $250, to which the counterguy agreed! I managed to knab a Mossy Maverick 88 that is essentially new as I can't find ANY wear or dirt on it anywhere.

So the point of this post? Well I had the opportunity to have both guns apart on the bench, side by side, while cleaning them. What I found, with the obvious exception of the stocks/forarms and the trigger/rec safety differences was that there was NO other difference in these two guns. I even noted that some of the manufacturing machine tool marks in the bolts and other parts MATCHED each other. These guns are built on the same tooling down in TX from what I have come to understand. The parts in these are NOT made in Mexico as some have said they were, at least not in the current versions of the Mav 88.

I have read numerous opinions about the Maverick 88's on the net that these are cheapened versions of the 500 and are not worth buying. IMO, after having them apart, there is no reason to pass one of these by, especially if you can get it cheap. MY dad spent $150 on the 500 and I fenaggled the 88 for $100, that's a deal I can live with any day.

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