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Old June 1st, 2016, 06:33 PM   #1
 
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Remington 870 Express Opinion question

Hey guys. I want your opinions on something. I recently bought an 870 express (28 inch barrel) with laminate wood furniture. I found a company called Numrichs who sells walnut stock and forend sets for the 870 for a price of $174.00. Do you guys think it's worth spending the money for this upgrade on an entry level shotgun like the 870 express, or should I save that money and put it towards a new gun later on? And keep in mind the forend of this stock set is 11 inches long, which is much longer than the factory forend and changes the look of the gun a bit. I've included the link to the website of the product and the site of a guy who put this set on his 870. Lastly, was the 870 express purchase even worthwhile, or should I look to trade it in for something like the wingmaster or 11-87 model?

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It's your gun, dress it out however you'd like it. The Rem 870 and Mossberg 500 are infinitely customizable. I couldn't tell you how much $ I've spent trying different furniture, sights, lasers, slings, rails, etc before finally settling on my current configurations.
It's a matter of trial and error, and personal preference.
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There is nothing wrong with an 870 Express. The finish is not up to what the Wingmasters had 30 years ago, but it will shoot just as well. Unless you got a tactical forend, there should be no significant difference in size between what you are looking at and what you have now. The price for the wood seems reasonable for some good wood (which is hard to find these days) and you can move it to other 870s in the future. It will not make it shoot any better. An 870 is nearly like an AR, in that you can do a lot with it. in the meantime just shoot the snot out of it.
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My 870 was handed down to me from my Dad. It's not a Wingmaster. It's just a good old huntin gun. We sawed off a bit of the stock to fit me when I got it. Both the fore end and stock have been replaced parts we got cheap from a LGS's supply of spare parts. They don't match, but the gun still functions as well as it did 50 years ago.

It's all about what you want, but I wouldn't spend that much money on new stocks for an Express. I'd save it to put towards more guns.
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You asked for an opinion, so mine is I would not "cutomize" an express 870. It's like putting really expensive wheels on a Kia.

I've love all the 870s I've ever owned, but the express is a working gun that you keep behind the seat of your pickup, or carry through thick trees hunting turkeys without losing sleep over scratches.

Yes I'd put the money in the piggy bank to save up or a Wingmaster. Or better. My 1970s Wingmasters are great but the quality there seems to have gone downhill too. When looking at glossy new fowling pieces nowadays I seem to find myself drawn to Bennelis, Franchis and Browning's revamped A5.
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If you like the look of the hardwood stock, then just buy it if it's what you want. That's what it all boils down to. Don't over think it. Functionally, I don't think there's anything wrong with laminate stocks. I just don't care for the look.
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I would put the money towards a new different purpose barrel, like a rifled slug or short smooth bore for defense. There are lots of options for that model.
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$175 seems like a lot of cash for a cosmetic 'upgrade' but many on here will spend that kind of money and more for a set of stag/horn grips for their pistols. It's your money and your gun. If switching to a nice walnut stock makes you happy I say go for it.

FYI, I'd also check out Boyds stocks. These two links are for a finished walnut buttstock and foreend for $139.

https://www.boydsgunstocks.com/Produ...alnut-finished

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I've had my 870 Express for a decade, still has the original laminate stocks, and they seem to hold up well. It has been a pretty reliable shotgun, and what few issues it has had from time to time were mostly my fault. I would recommend internal upgrades (like mag spring and follower) before decorative ones.
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Thanks to one and all for the feedback so far. I'm still on the fence.
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I have an 870 I bought back in 1997 and have never had a problem with it other than the matte black finish rusting and pitting. I spent $140 to have it hydro dipped in a cammo pattern and love it. I only paid $175 for the gun when I bought it. Good luck with your choice.
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I put a magazine tube extension and a shower barrel with rifle sites on mine - but that is because I used it in 3Gun competition - so the extra capacity combined with the adjustable sites as well as the shorter barrel provided advantages in competition.
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walsh, I'm not sure what you're attempting to do but maybe I can shed a little light on the 870.

The 870 can be equipped with a short or long fore end. The short fore end will not cover the loading port with the action is open and the fore end is all the way to the rear. The long fore end will partially cover the loading port when the action is open.
Most military/police applications will utilize the short fore end. The long fore end allows the shooter to place his/her weak hand (forward hand on a long gun) a little farther towards the rear. Some shooters prefer that grip.
For police/military use, the short fore end is used (or the long fore end shortened) so that the loading port can be accessed with the action open in case a shell is accidentally loaded backwards. That condition will produce a malfunction and the operator needs to be able to access the loading port with the action open to clear that malfunction.

As for spending the money to change the furniture on an 870 Express, it's your gun, do what you wish. Personally, I would stay with the "short" fore end.

And as previously stated, the express models are nothing more than regular 870's with a little less finishing in order to reduce the cost. The Express models are identical to the other 870's in operation. And by the way, the Remington 870 has been in continuous production since 1950 ! It is a well proven design !
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Personally MHO I never put more into a gun than 1/4th of it's value except shells and cleaning equip. I have an 870 Express also . Kicks the hell out of me so I shoot it very little . You can get a new WingMaster for $720.00 at Cabelas right now and from what I've heard they are just as good as the old WMs' . Blued with wood stock , beautiful gun ! For just a little more you can get a Franchi Affinity 12-ga. semi-auto . I have one of those also . Much lighter than the WM and shoots like a charm ! Love that gun . But your gun is your personality and for you personally to choose and do as you wish . Spend a lot , spend a little . Either way just makes sure the gun fits, works well and you can be happy with it . If you have any doubts then don't buy it , you will regret later wishing you had . WHen I buy another SG it will be a WingMAster in 12-ga for sure !

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The "el-cheapo" 870 Express has a lot more MIM parts than the older 870's. The MIM parts (extractors) are breakage prone with a lot of use. Personally, I prefer machined metal parts in my guns.
Used but not abused Remington 870's are everywhere. I'd buy a good used one before any of Remington's "value priced" junk they sell these days. JMO
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