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Old March 23rd, 2016, 06:34 PM   #1
 
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Questions on a new purchase! Remington 870 Express.

Hey guys. My wife and I just had a baby so money is officially tight and not being budgeted towards the purchase of more firearms. I managed to save up $350 and decided to get a pump action shotgun. I went with the Remington 870 express, 12 gauge, 28 inch barrels, wood furniture. First off, any comments on my choice of gun here (I already own a ruger red label that I bought brand new last year)? I also have 2 specific questions. First, how much "wiggle" should there be in the forend of this gun? Mine feels like it has more play in it than I'd ideally like, but if that's normal I can live with it. Second, I called Remington and a rep confirmed for me that the stock is solid walnut, however, their own website calls it laminate wood. Can anyone expand on what laminate wood means? Is this thing real walnut or not? Thanks in advance and I look forward to hearing back from everyone.



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Hey walsh. Not a bad decision in my book. Your 870 Express has a steel receiver which is good but as for the stock I believe it is birch or possibly a laminate. Laminates are quite strong. Never heard of real walnut stocks on a 870 Express. Just the 870 Wingmasters which are more expensive due to high polish bluing and walnut. Friend bought an Express and yes it does have play or wiggle on the forend. Of course this model is more affordable so we get less frills like fancy wood and high polish bluing which I understand are expensive features today.
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I noticed the other day a Wally World example wearing hardwood again instead of laminate. Maybe they switched back. I always preferred the solid hardwood Express over the laminate. It might be walnut, just not the select grade stuff that comes on nicer variants.

Don't worry about the handguard if it blows and goes as it should. Get the cheapest, crappiest low brass shells you can and see if it eats. I bought two last year. A high end police magnum and a express home defense. The express ran like a top. The police still chokes on cheap shells AFTER a trip back to Remington. Go figure

Make sure and check for the $25 rebate if you haven't already.
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An 870 is a great gun. Can't go wrong with that. A little fore end wiggle is normal on all the pump guns I've ever owned.

Now time to stop buying guns for yourself, though, and start saving up for that baby learning to shoot. By the time mine were 7 or 8 years old they wanted Savage Rascal single shot youth 22s. Then before long they outgrow those so you need bigger 22s. And youth shotguns, then they outgrow those too. Then it's their first deer rifle. Last year my oldest built an AR15 and next he wants a Mark III Hunter.

Most of this I make them buy on their own. (Nothing wrong with a junior high student wanting a job so he can buy a Mark III. Better than a stupid video game.) But it inevitably ends up being quite a bit out of mom and dad's wallet too.
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I bought an 870 Express 20 Ga many years ago. My 11-87 was becoming heavy to carry, and made my hands numb. Im pretty sure, at that time, the only difference between the Wingmaster, and the Express was the wood type, and finish, and the metal finish. It also has pressed checkering instead of crisp machine checkering. Its been a great little gun, and has held up well over the years. Some wiggle in the pump action is normal.
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Walsh, 870's are great guns. Clean it and shoot it alot. The real test for it is for it to shoot "Winchester bulk low brass target loads" and not bind up the action. Its a good test for checking reliability. My"express model" would lock up firing these shells. I googeled and youtubed this for a fix and ended up breaking out a drill and wooden dowel rod and some fine scotchbrite pads and some Rem oil and polished the chamber myself. Fired cases do not stick in the chamber anymore. I only polished the chamber and I did it with the barrel removed from the reciever.
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I replaced my 870 barrel with an 18" threaded Carlson's barrel, then put an adjustable choke on it. It is a defense shotgun first (home and woods) and a sporting gun second, so this works for me, and I actually like shooting clays with the shorter barrel. The original barrel had cheap shells stick a lot (especially Winchester universal).

I have upgraded all springs and extractor with heavier duty ones. Shotgun runs like a champ now.
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So guys I just called Remington back to clarify about the material used in the stock and forend of the 870; the rep looked up the building materials in the order and it is definitely LAMINATE. They told me it contains some walnut and birch, but mostly fake wood. They said more people prefer it due to the durability. I'm a young guy who apparently has an old soul, because I prefer good old fashioned wood any day.
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I have the same gun, 28" laminate stock, little wiggle too but doesn't affect function.
It's a great gun I think everyone should have one. I currently have a slug barrel on it because I went with a semi auto for duck hunting
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So bandit1 what semiautomatic did you go with? And regarding the wiggle in the forend, the Remington rep told me that I can tighten the cap on the magazine tube and that may reduce the wiggle a bit.
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So guys I just called Remington back to clarify about the material used in the stock and forend of the 870; the rep looked up the building materials in the order and it is definitely LAMINATE. They told me it contains some walnut and birch, but mostly fake wood. They said more people prefer it due to the durability. I'm a young guy who apparently has an old soul, because I prefer good old fashioned wood any day.
Hit a pawn shop that buys/sells a lot of guns. I've found boxes of walnut stock take-offs from police trade ins...if you don't mind a shorter, riot gun style forend.
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So bandit1 what semiautomatic did you go with? And regarding the wiggle in the forend, the Remington rep told me that I can tighten the cap on the magazine tube and that may reduce the wiggle a bit.
Yes tighten the cap that helps
I bought a Stoeger m2000, its been very reliable for me
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Do any of you guys think ruger will ever make a pump shotgun? And I really wish they would bring back the gold label.
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Do any of you guys think ruger will ever make a pump shotgun? And I really wish they would bring back the gold label.
I doubt it. They build to a price point, and I think Remington and Mosserg have that price point covered. But if they did, they'd slap the Ruger American label on it.
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Guys if I can find a like-new wingmaster stock and forend set, is it worth the money to swap out on my 870 express? The cost would be $110. Worth it or just leave the gun as is?
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