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This is a discussion on Mini-14 Must Have/Must Do Mods??? within the Ruger Semi-Auto forums, part of the Rifle & Shotgun Forum category; I only have the factory syn stock but I did add on the Ultimak Scout Rail and Leatherwood Long Eye Relief Scope...


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Old July 17th, 2013, 04:11 PM   #16
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I only have the factory syn stock but I did add on the Ultimak Scout Rail and Leatherwood Long Eye Relief Scope



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accu strut

hey all , is there a accu strut to fit a mini 14 target
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I have a mini with a target sized peep installed and I can shoot 3 inch at 50 yards. Almost as well as I can with a scope.
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hey all , is there a accu strut to fit a mini 14 target
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I think they look and feel the best with the factory wood or synthetic stock. As far as the other mods go, I haven't done anything to mine yet either, but think it's way past time to get a different gas bushing installed. That and a trigger job and I'll be good to go.
Keeping it simple is good. Yes, the right gas bushing makes for great shooting. Especially if you shoot at a range or you reload your brass.

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I have tried some of the aftermarket stocks, they have some good features but more bad ones. Most are heavier than the factory stock options.
My biggest gripe with the "Tactical Style" aftermarket stocks like the Tapco, ATI and Archangel is with the ergo's. None of them are as solid, as quiet, and as compact as a traditional stock. The Tapco a friend put on his Mini-30, was rattly loose, sharp edges everywhere, and IMO, ugly as sin. He has since gone back to the factory synthetic on his stainless 30.
Ask yourself, " Do I really need all that rail space or an adjustable stock, which will make my Mini heavier and bulkier ? All we should need is a short (1 1/2" to 2") rail up near the gas block to clip a small light or laser to. You can add one to any wood or syn stock.
I had a Hogue overmolded stock, good grip (almost too good) and substantial feel. Great for a varmint or bench Mini. It was heavier and bulkier.
I find the Ruger synthetic stock to be about ideal.
They are light, stiff enough, and compact, and overall seem to have a tighter fit to the action than wood stocks.
Unlike a Hogue, which is so grippy it will grab your shirt or jacket as you're trying to shoulder the Mini, the Ruger synthetic stock is grippy only where you need it, where your hands go.
My only dislike of the Ruger synthetic stock is the color, I'm just not into solid black. I put Cerakote on my stock to make it grey, it would be great if Ruger would sell that stock in a few color options like, brown, green and grey.
That grey stock, with side mounted Q.D. swivels and a Vickers Blue Force sling sure works slick. Fast to get into use, and no sharp edges to be found.
I traded the wood stock that came with that stainless Mini for a synthetic, as I already had a Mini-30 with wood stock. Although I like having a wood stock Mini around as well, I'm glad I found out how nice those factory synthetic stocks are.



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I agree. I like the Hogue overmold stock. My series 185 originally had the wood stock until a couple of years ago. I switched to the Hogue stock and, about the same time, installed an AccuStrut and the Amega top rail. I really like that rail. There really is no other viable way to mount an optic on the older Minis. Also, I installed Wilson buffers, front and rear.

And yes, I kept the wood stock, and yes the Accustrut improved the accuracy.

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The mods you'll want is dependent upon what you type of Mini you have and what you intend to do with your rifle. Is it an older model with a pencil barrel or a newer series with a thicker barrel? Is it a tactical model or a Ranch Rifle? Will it be used as a plinker, a hunter, an all around, or a tactical? Scoped, Red Dot, or Irons only? What type of ammo you'll use in it. Cheap Commie blasting ammo? Decent commercial ammo? Handloads?

(BTW, expecting high precision and tight groups with cheap blasting ammo is a pipe dream.)

Here is the list of things I did to my New, 583 Series Ranch Rifle. I wanted a reliable, fun all around irons only shooter with decent accuracy that was reminiscent of my M14 in the Army and my M1A. The list below shows what mods I made, how much they cost, and what they are for. Your list will likely be different as you may have a different Mini and your own idea on what you want.

Choate Handguard swap: $15 - Choate Handguard not only looks better but it cools the barrel much better than Ruger's. No, it doesn't cover the op rod but neither does the handguard on 5.5 million M1 Garands, 6.5 million M1 Carbines, and 1.4 million M14s.

Wilson 1911 Buffers: $6 (set of 6) - Addition of 2 Wilson 1911 (yep, pistol) bushing, one around the gas pipe in the front and one on the Op rod spring at the rear. Together, they will tone down the cycling jolts and eliminate metal to metal slamming.

Mini200 Rear Sight: $65 - Tech Sights' Mini200 rear sight gives better irons sighting and adjustment than Ruger's stock one. Add to that their $15 optional aperture package with 3 different aperture sizes and when you use the target .042" aperture, you have a NM like rear sight.

Thinned Front Sight: $0 - Thinning down the .075"-.077" thick front sight to .050", combined with a target .042" rear aperture gives you a 'NM' equivalent sight set.

Gas Bushing Reduction: $50 - Swap of the overly large stock Gas Bushing with a smaller one. Sets of .040", .045", .050", and .060" are available. My .045" Gas Bushing reduces the cycling violence which improves accuracy on the Mini14 while the .060" version works well with the Mini30. Shorter barreled Tactical models need a slightly larger aperture size. (The reduced size gas bushing gives the added benefit of reducing the distance your Mini throws brass. Mine went from 50-60 ft NIB to 12-15 ft currently with my handloads.)

Gas Block Torque: $0 - We've found that torquing the gas block bolts to 30 in/lbs when reassembling and keeping the upper and lower halve gaps consistent aides in accuracy.

Shimmed Receiver: $0 - I found that my action was fairly tight in my stock with it set in without the trigger group installed but I wanted to get a real tight fit so there was no fore or aft nor side to side movement of the action at all. I found that shimming the action with a bit of tin on both sides really tightened up things well. The plates are held in place with the stiffener screw so itís an easy fit. It seems to help with repeatability.

Barrel Strut: $80 - Accu-Strut or $105 Mo-Rod, both barrel struts clamp to barrel and gas block to both dampen barrel harmonics and aide barrel cooling. Developed for pencil barreled where they do a lot of good but also help a bit on the new 58X series Minis. Both single and double clamp versions are available. Double clamps give the most rigidity and is best for pencil barreled versions. Single clamp looks cool.

Light Dressing of the Sears: $0 - Lightly polishing of the sears in the trigger group improves trigger function. Or step up to a Trigger Job: $55-$65 - Trigger Group job where the first stage is shortened and second stage is lightened. Just like a precision trigger on an AR, it really helps your precision shooting and if you want small groups, it's money well spent. Not needed for plinking but really helps decrease your group size.

Ruger Brand 20rd Magazines: $26-$28 on sale - Yes they are a bit more, however, they are durable and extremely reliable. Well worth the extra few bucks over the aftermarket versions because they flat work.

Of note for irons shooters. Even though Ruger advertises that the Minis have a 'normal' 13.5" LOP, I found that the 'Heel to Aperture' distance (top of the buttstock to the rear sight aperture) on the current model Mini Ranch Rifles measures 15.5". This is as opposed to a 14" Heel to Aperture distance on M1 Garands, M1 Carbines, and M14/M1As.

I found that this caused me to strain my neck forward trying to gain the same sight picture I am use to with the other platforms. As I have all three other platforms, plus more 'irons' rifles with the same 14" distance, I found the stock Mini rear sight awkward to use.

Adding the Techsight's great Mini200 rear sight does help a bit as it mounts such that the aperture is moved back .5" giving one a 15" Heel to Aperture distance. While a bit better, it still didn't feel right to me so I removed the buttpad and cut down the birch stock 1", reattached the buttpad, and sanded it down to meet the new buttstock profile.

This made a significant difference for me in that 1, I'm able to hold a natural sight picture with the rear sight, and 2, with my eye closer to the rear aperture, the use of a smaller aperture helps increase the DoF giving me a clearer view of the front sight and target; something us more 'seasoned' shooter need.
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Need to replace those gas bushings before I knock someone out with my brass!

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Great info.
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I forgot, shameless, self promoting pictures of my Mini.

With it's namesake.



Looks kinda sexy by itself.



My 'NM' equivalent rear sight.



My thinned 'NM' front sight.



As it sits with my handloads (all it's ever seen) it's a real fun shooter and more accurate than I am.
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The mods you'll want is dependent upon what you type of Mini you have and what you intend to do with your rifle. Is it an older model with a pencil barrel or a newer series with a thicker barrel? Is it a tactical model or a Ranch Rifle? Will it be used as a plinker, a hunter, an all around, or a tactical? Scoped, Red Dot, or Irons only? What type of ammo you'll use in it. Cheap Commie blasting ammo? Decent commercial ammo? Handloads?

(BTW, expecting high precision and tight groups with cheap blasting ammo is a pipe dream.)

Here is the list of things I did to my New, 583 Series Ranch Rifle. I wanted a reliable, fun all around irons only shooter with decent accuracy that was reminiscent of my M14 in the Army and my M1A. The list below shows what mods I made, how much they cost, and what they are for. Your list will likely be different as you may have a different Mini and your own idea on what you want.

Choate Handguard swap: $15 - Choate Handguard not only looks better but it cools the barrel much better than Ruger's. No, it doesn't cover the op rod but neither does the handguard on 5.5 million M1 Garands, 6.5 million M1 Carbines, and 1.4 million M14s.

Wilson 1911 Buffers: $6 (set of 6) - Addition of 2 Wilson 1911 (yep, pistol) bushing, one around the gas pipe in the front and one on the Op rod spring at the rear. Together, they will tone down the cycling jolts and eliminate metal to metal slamming.

Mini200 Rear Sight: $65 - Tech Sights' Mini200 rear sight gives better irons sighting and adjustment than Ruger's stock one. Add to that their $15 optional aperture package with 3 different aperture sizes and when you use the target .042" aperture, you have a NM like rear sight.

Thinned Front Sight: $0 - Thinning down the .075"-.077" thick front sight to .050", combined with a target .042" rear aperture gives you a 'NM' equivalent sight set.

Gas Bushing Reduction: $50 - Swap of the overly large stock Gas Bushing with a smaller one. Sets of .040", .045", .050", and .060" are available. My .045" Gas Bushing reduces the cycling violence which improves accuracy on the Mini14 while the .060" version works well with the Mini30. Shorter barreled Tactical models need a slightly larger aperture size. (The reduced size gas bushing gives the added benefit of reducing the distance your Mini throws brass. Mine went from 50-60 ft NIB to 12-15 ft currently with my handloads.)

Gas Block Torque: $0 - We've found that torquing the gas block bolts to 30 in/lbs when reassembling and keeping the upper and lower halve gaps consistent aides in accuracy.

Shimmed Receiver: $0 - I found that my action was fairly tight in my stock with it set in without the trigger group installed but I wanted to get a real tight fit so there was no fore or aft nor side to side movement of the action at all. I found that shimming the action with a bit of tin on both sides really tightened up things well. The plates are held in place with the stiffener screw so itís an easy fit. It seems to help with repeatability.

Barrel Strut: $80 - A<script id="gpt-impl-0.8849627289438464" src="https://securepubads.g.doubleclick.net/gpt/pubads_impl_107.js"></script>ccu-Strut or $105 Mo-Rod, both barrel struts clamp to barrel and gas block to both dampen barrel harmonics and aide barrel cooling. Developed for pencil barreled where they do a lot of good but also help a bit on the new 58X series Minis. Both single and double clamp versions are available. Double clamps give the most rigidity and is best for pencil barreled versions. Single clamp looks cool.

Light Dressing of the Sears: $0 - Lightly polishing of the sears in the trigger group improves trigger function. Or step up to a Trigger Job: $55-$65 - Trigger Group job where the first stage is shortened and second stage is lightened. Just like a precision trigger on an AR, it really helps your precision shooting and if you want small groups, it's money well spent. Not needed for plinking but really helps decrease your group size.

Ruger Brand 20rd Magazines: $26-$28 on sale - Yes they are a bit more, however, they are durable and extremely reliable. Well worth the extra few bucks over the aftermarket versions because they flat work.

Of note for irons shooters. Even though Ruger advertises that the Minis have a 'normal' 13.5" LOP, I found that the 'Heel to Aperture' distance (top of the buttstock to the rear sight aperture) on the current model Mini Ranch Rifles measures 15.5". This is as opposed to a 14" Heel to Aperture distance on M1 Garands, M1 Carbines, and M14/M1As.

I found that this caused me to strain my neck forward trying to gain the same sight picture I am use to with the other platforms. As I have all three other platforms, plus more 'irons' rifles with the same 14" distance, I found the stock Mini rear sight awkward to use.

Adding the Techsight's great Mini200 rear sight does help a bit as it mounts such that the aperture is moved back .5" giving one a 15" Heel to Aperture distance. While a bit better, it still didn't feel right to me so I removed the buttpad and cut down the birch stock 1", reattached the buttpad, and sanded it down to meet the new buttstock profile.

This made a significant difference for me in that 1, I'm able to hold a natural sight picture with the rear sight, and 2, with my eye closer to the rear aperture, the use of a smaller aperture helps increase the DoF giving me a clearer view of the front sight and target; something us more 'seasoned' shooter need.
I used a credit card to create shims for my pencil barrel 580. Accu-Strut, Mo-Reaper, Wilson shok buffers, and I am awaiting bushings (0.295 length) from ATI. A heavy duty recoil spring reduced ejected brass to 6-7 feet. I will switch back to the normal spring when I try out the 0.050 bushing.
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One "must have mod" is sending your trigger group to Brimstone. $55 and one week turnaround, and you'll get back a fabulous trigger.
Ruger Mini trigger job ? Brimstone Gunsmithing
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