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Old July 3rd, 2013, 09:07 AM   #1
 
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Exclamation Ruger Mini 14/30 After-market Modifications

This is my first post and I hope I will be able to bring some thing to you new "Pistoleer's"
I have personally spent a lot of time and money throughout the years trying to change and/or redesign out of the box guns. Stocks, Grips. sights, etc.
My most recent disaster cost me around $800.00 went I sent my Mini-30 to a place in Colorado called Accuracy Systems inc.
I guess the point I'm trying to make is, take care and time to research the gun your thinking of buying and do'nt through money away trying to change it after the fact. Some times you'll save, by spending a little more by upgrading.



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Old July 3rd, 2013, 09:46 AM   #2
 
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OK, Clear this up for me.

what was the reason to ship the gun to the aftermarket 'fixer'?? Accuracy?? Appearance? Handling??

I am not ranting about dressing up a gun, I do it a lot. But why do it, unless you have some sort of reason. My mini-30 is a fun gun to shoot. I made it look better --in my opinion-- by changing the appearance. It is not super accurate at distances beyond 100 yards, but a lot of that is my old age and bad vision... So it is a fine gun within limits.

As CLINT says, "You have to know your limitations" !!.

here's mine-

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I own a 580 series stainless ranch the best advice I can give is to get a mild trigger job it really makes it better on the bench. Top it off with a quality optics . The tactical stocks are nice but I think take away from the rifles character...so if I wanted rails I'll stick them on my AR.
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Old July 3rd, 2013, 01:29 PM   #4
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I own a 580 series stainless ranch the best advice I can give is to get a mild trigger job it really makes it better on the bench. Top it off with a quality optics . The tactical stocks are nice but I think take away from the rifles character...so if I wanted rails I'll stick them on my AR.
I have the 580 Stainless Ranch also. I've heard a couple people mention a trigger job. Please tell me more about this as I have no clue as to what you are doing.

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Ruger Mini Trigger Work ? Brimstone Gunsmithing

I have heard good things about his work on 10/22 triggers so would imagine he would do a nice mini trigger as well.
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Ruger Mini-30 Tactical Modification

I had to send my mini-30 out of state to have modifications made to the gun that were basically illegal in California.
The weapon is vary accurate even with Russian ammunition. With Winchester ammo the gun will hold 2" groups out to 100-yards. This Ruger Mini-30 is designed as a close-order urban combat tactical weapon. The Barrel is 16.5" with a trigger pull is 3.5# with no slack. The gas system is adjustable to adjust for diffrent types of 7.62X39 loads. the weapon also mounts the M-16 bayonet, If needed.
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The only thing my Mini 14 needs is a little trigger work. Just need to smooth it some and lighten it up to 3 1/2-4 pound pull to match the rest of my hunting guns.

As far as stocks, grips, rails and such, I see no need for those as I'm old school, I use the KISS system. Keep It Simple Stupid.

The more you mess with it the easier it is to break. I like to spend time shooting, not working on guns.
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The mini-30 is an outstanding Hog gun, should you ever have the chance to hunt in a shorter range area than California. I love it out to 100 yards. After that I reach for my 308.
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what do you think of these mods?

Ruger Mini-14 Tactical "Scout"
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what do you think of these mods?

Ruger Mini-14 Tactical "Scout"
I added the same "scout rail" to my Wood/Blued Mini and am planning on a LER scope as well (it's sporting a Millet SP1 reddot on see-thru rings right now). I've decide on the Nikon Force XR 2-8x28 over the Leatherwood; mainly because all my camera gear is Nikon (because of their glass) so I figure that logic would apply to scopes as well ...

The other things I've done are to replace the rear with the Tech Sights Mini200 (it's a breeze to adjust compared to the factory) with the interchangeable apertures

I also installed a Accu-Strut XDrill; I'm not sure if it helped the accuracy (but Ill bet it didn't hurt), but I do love the way it looks!! Someday, Ill break down and upload some pics to a sharing site, so I can post them here
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I added the same "scout rail" to my Wood/Blued Mini and am planning on a LER scope as well (it's sporting a Millet SP1 reddot on see-thru rings right now). I've decide on the Nikon Force XR 2-8x28 over the Leatherwood; mainly because all my camera gear is Nikon (because of their glass) so I figure that logic would apply to scopes as well ...
good point on the Nikon glass - even though I'm a Canon guy and everyone knows Canon is better lol
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The Ruger Mini's are alot like there big brothers, the M-1's (M-14, M-1A,M-1 Gurand) They are not turly accurate (tac-drivers) out of the box (Unless you buy one that a NM grade gun.)

Spending for Gunsmithing work, like trigger jobs, stock glassing and a few NM parts will normally close-up your shot groups.

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A dream come true for Mini CQB:

After mounting ultimak scout rail, the lowest scout rail for a Mini14 NRA and a Redfield Counterstrike
R/G dot scope I found to be a match made in Heaven. The Laser at the bottom of the scope just cleared
my front sights and I did not have to adjust it for elevation at 85 yards. The red green dot scope needed
a micro adjustment to the right. This was done with a laser in the chamber.
For CQB, the laser is 1/2" high at 3 feet and perfect at 85 yards. The Red Green dot sight
is also set for 85 yards. This is the best illuminated dot sight I have ever seen on a mini.
Close up the laser it is neatly perfect, less than 1/2" high under 6' and perfect at 85 yards.
the scope is 1" high at 6' and right on at 85 yards.
For CQB it is the best such setup for a Mini14 NRA like mine or any model after 08 with a 16" barrel.
A dream come true at 100 yards and closer. This is the best CQB rifle I have ever shot.

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The Ruger Mini's are alot like there big brothers, the M-1's (M-14, M-1A,M-1 Gurand) They are not turly accurate (tac-drivers) out of the box (Unless you buy one that a NM grade gun.)

Spending for Gunsmithing work, like trigger jobs, stock glassing and a few NM parts will normally close-up your shot groups.
My life experiences have been different. I own the m1 carbine, m1 garand, m1a scout, m1a national match, mini14 std (1988) pencil barrel, the mini 14 laminate target, and mini 30 (1998) I can say that the mini 14
Std has accuracy to me close to the 30 carbine. There is no comparison with the garand, or m1a rifles. The mini std is a 2 or 3 moa gun, m1 carbine as well. The m1 garand, and m1a's will shoot 1.5moa or better. My mini 30 with my handloads will do 1 moa or better at 100 yards using a .308 110grain vmax at 2600fps. The mini 14 target is submoa with a 40 grain vmax. The mini std has been accurized, and m1a match, the rest are as issued, no enhancements. I just spent time putting togather ammo that they liked, worked up some loads, and spent alot of time on the trigger. I really think that accuracy depends on alot of variables, the firearm, shooter ability experience and discipline, ammuntion or handloads, weather conditions, terrain features, elevation, and the shooters expectations or goals.

So I am not knocking that accuracy systems can make a mini better, cause they can, but its just a far stretch to compare the mini, to the springfields, there is a world of difference.in my experiences in out of the box accuracy.

I once had the accuracy issues when I started working on my mini 30, the ammo on the market in 7.62x39 is not really made for moa shooting. Since my 1998 mini has a .308 bore ( pre 2005 models) I fired domestic brass ammo in my ak rifles then reloaded it specifically for my mini 30 with either a sierra 110 grain .308 hp or a 110 grain vmax .308 with IMR 4227, or A1680 my groups shrank, and really surprised me. Maybe something to look into if you roll your own, aand you have a pre 2005 mini 30.

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