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Old January 21st, 2013, 06:32 AM   #1
 
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Backup gun for my .223/5.56 Ranch Rifle

I知 a big believer in redundancy where practical/possible; as I知 building my collection of firearms for plinking/competitive shooting & SHTF I致e tried to have at least 2 firearms capable of utilizing the ammo in my safe.

I just acquired my first Mini-14 (the basic wood stock/blued Ranch Rifle) and am now accumulating inventory of .223/5.56NATO (not the best timing, but it is what it is). As a result I am now looking for a complimentary firearm that like the Mini, can utilize both rounds. Given the current political climate, I知 looking hard at bolt action options, but it seems Ruger does not make a bolt-action that Is chambered for both .223 & 5.56

I致e done a little research on-line and have found one gun that seems to fit the bill; the Mossberg MVP Predator. Does anyone here have any experience with the MVP series &/or other recommendations that I should consider?

Thanks in advance for your help!
SSSSteve

PS I致e also considered the thought that a 2nd Mini might be my best bet, maybe a Synthetic Stock/SS model to go wiht my 2 10/22's and the SR9 & SR9c in my safe



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Old January 21st, 2013, 06:46 AM   #2
 
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Just my two cents but I think you need a Gunsite Scout Rifle
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Just my two cents but I think you need a Gunsite Scout Rifle
I'd love one, but that means I'd have 2 guns in the safe without a "backup" and would alse need to add inventory of another caliber...
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I'd love one, but that means I'd have 2 guns in the safe without a "backup" and would alse need to add inventory of another caliber...
I'm in the market for a Mossberg MVP as well, but I'm waiting for the craziness to die down. GSR is my backup gun for now and yeah, I had to buy some 308 ammo.
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Backup? Sounds like a pistol. Want to use same ammo? Kel Tec PLR-16.
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the CZ 527 rifles are rated for both 5.56 and 223.......my 527FS shoots either round exceptionally well
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Just my two cents but I think you need a Gunsite Scout Rifle
I agree. It works great for me......While same caliber is nice to have, having popular calibers is also nice to have. Plus the GSR will reach out and touch things a little farther/harder.
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......While same caliber is nice to have, having popular calibers is also nice to have....
That's a good point as well

Thanks!
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You could always pick up a Mini 30. It will pack a little more punch and 7.62X 39 is not to hard to find.The
3 0 8 is expensive and heavy to carry a lot of ammo around.
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You could check the Gallery of Guns web site for 223 rifles. It will cut the list down if you only want available rifles. Unfortunately they don't always show if they are 5.56 compatible.

I was intrigued by some of the single shot 223 rifles. Hey, they are cheaper and would serve as a back up tool.
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Two Mini's are good, many do that way. Some have two Mini's and an AR-15 or a Mini-14 and an AR-15.

Savaage as an example makes a .223 bolt, good price, good rifle.

Tough time to buy this ammo! Remember, aside from sparce shelves some people have back orders on websites.

Mini-14 inventories at some point will catch up.
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Savage makes a nice bolt action gun partially like a 110 action but with more of a solid top receiver & clip fed. Cal Ranch has them for about $369.00 & it also comes with a 3-9 looks like a Tasco Scope the scope comes mounted on the rifle. For that price take the scope off get a nicer one and put the Tasco on a .22!' I have been also thinking of a 2nd rifle for my .223/5.56 ammo also!
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Update

As much as I 努ant a Gunsite Scout Rifle and like the idea of another Mini in a different caliber (7.62x39), I think I知 going to stick with another 223/5.56 as my 澱ackup; here痴 why:
Most shots I値l ever need to make are < 150yds & at that distance my Mini-14 will provide more than enough punch (against anything but a hardened target) if I can just manage 電ecent shot placement (say 6 circle). The flat trajectory of the 223/5.56 should allow that if I have the rifle sighted at that distance; as well as any shot in-between.

The 7.62x39 does have an advantage in terms of 菟unch of about 10%, but the advantage drops rapidly out past 175yds and 妬n-between the 殿rcing trajectory makes accurate placement highly questionable.

The 308痴 (7.62x51) punch is the clear winner (at any distance) of the 3 rounds, but like the 7.62x39 it has an 殿rcing trajectory that requires significant adjustments in sighting throughout the bullet痴 path; plus it痴 nearly 2x as much per round in 渡ormal conditions.
So my plan is to sight in my Mini-14 at say, 100-125 yds with the iron sights and the backup sighted at say 250 yds (be it another Mini, an MVP, a CZ527 or a firearm TBD) with a variable power scope..

Any thoughts, comments, mocking &/or jeering regarding my current plan??
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Why have the rifles sighted at 2 different ranges?

Keep things simple. In a crises your mind can play tricks on you.

223 is fairly flat shooting anyway; its the wind that may bedevil you.

Well anyway practice at both distances.
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