Purchasing decision, first 'tactical' rifleThis is a discussion on Purchasing decision, first 'tactical' rifle within the Ruger Semi-Auto forums, part of the Rifle & Shotgun Forum category; Originally Posted by DAJ
Do like I did and get them both
I 'could' do that.. but then I'd just lose them in the divorce....  |
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August 21st, 2012, 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by DAJ Do like I did and get them both  | I 'could' do that.. but then I'd just lose them in the divorce.
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August 21st, 2012, 06:10 PM
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| the newest mini 14 is hard to beat
For an overall fun, hard hitting rifle, decent accuracy, and realistic cost.....
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August 22nd, 2012, 06:56 PM
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Hello everyone.
I just wanted to follow up and say that I decided to go with the Mini-14 and purchased one this evening off from GunBroker.com for $665.
Thanks once again for all the suggestions and advise, I did appreciate it!
The SR-556 is still on the agenda, it will just have to wait for a bit longer.
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August 22nd, 2012, 07:54 PM
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#19 | | Conserviberalitarian
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I personally think the Ruger AR is over priced for what you get. I got my AR 15 at a gun show. I paid $1000 for it. It has a DTI upper, Spikes Tactical lower, quad rails, 16" barrel (not chromed) and came with a Slidefire stock. Since then I've added a BCM charging handle, replaced the standard iron sights with flip down BUIS, replaced the BCG with a chrome nickel boron Spikes Tactical BCG and put an EOTech MPO III optics on it. So all in all, I've got about $2,500 into it.
It's amazingly accurate, runs like a champ (after the BCG change out) and I can run it on bumpfire at around 900 rpm.
I believe the Rugers are piston fed. Mine is a standard gas impengment. It runs hotter and dirtier but most believe they're more accurate.
I don't have a chome bore, but I don't live in Vietnam. I don't see the need for a chrome bore for non military use. Again, there is evidence to support a chromed bore is slightly less accurate.
To setup a Ruger like mine would cost you about $850 more than mine cost.
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August 22nd, 2012, 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by jlh820 I personally think the Ruger AR is over priced for what you get. I got my AR 15 at a gun show. I paid $1000 for it. It has a DTI upper, Spikes Tactical lower, quad rails, 16" barrel (not chromed) and came with a Slidefire stock. Since then I've added a BCM charging handle, replaced the standard iron sights with flip down BUIS, replaced the BCG with a chrome nickel boron Spikes Tactical BCG and put an EOTech MPO III optics on it. So all in all, I've got about $2,500 into it.
It's amazingly accurate, runs like a champ (after the BCG change out) and I can run it on bumpfire at around 900 rpm.
I believe the Rugers are piston fed. Mine is a standard gas impengment. It runs hotter and dirtier but most believe they're more accurate.
I don't have a chome bore, but I don't live in Vietnam. I don't see the need for a chrome bore for non military use. Again, there is evidence to support a chromed bore is slightly less accurate.
To setup a Ruger like mine would cost you about $850 more than mine cost. | The SR is priced fair, the standard model goes for $1400-1500 at most shops and includes a Troy quad rail, $200 bucks worth of Troy sights, a hogue grip, 3 Pmags, the chromed piston system, BCG, barrel, chamber and a few other odds and ends.
I have 3k in mine and the only thing I don't have is the slide fire stock, but I do have a Geissele trigger and a few other things that add up a bit more.
And there is always the E model that lacks the sights and chromed parts that sells for $500 less.
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August 22nd, 2012, 10:24 PM
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#21 | | Conserviberalitarian
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Originally Posted by KSR The SR is priced fair, the standard model goes for $1400-1500 at most shops and includes a Troy quad rail, $200 bucks worth of Troy sights, a hogue grip, 3 Pmags, the chromed piston system, BCG, barrel, chamber and a few other odds and ends.
I have 3k in mine and the only thing I don't have is the slide fire stock, but I do have a Geissele trigger and a few other things that add up a bit more.
And there is always the E model that lacks the sights and chromed parts that sells for $500 less. | I'm not saying Ruger doesn't make a good AR, but I think you proved my point with your $3000 price tag. I don't have a Geissele trigger, but the one that came with it is a great trigger, light, crisp and precise.
I've since updated the sling and the forearm wasn't stock, either.
25 yards single fire. I've since done about the same at 100 yards, but don't have a picture of it.
Mag dump, full auto at 100 yards |
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August 22nd, 2012, 11:56 PM
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Tough call. I love my SR556FB and would probably never go back to a DI type of AR. The thing is that even with the SR556, there is still more stuff to buy for it. I'm already looking at one of the Magpul buttstocks to replace the standard M4 stock. Then there is the trigger: I'm thinking that I'll need a Geissele pretty soon. A few more Magpul magazines. Maybe a sling set-up. I will probably want another optic for it soon. The list goes on.
Once you get bit by the AR bug, you gotta keep scratching that itch.
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August 23rd, 2012, 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by jlh820 I'm not saying Ruger doesn't make a good AR, but I think you proved my point with your $3000 price tag. I don't have a Geissele trigger, but the one that came with it is a great trigger, light, crisp and precise.
I've since updated the sling and the forearm wasn't stock, | My rifle has $600 worth of stuff yours does not, and you have a $350 stock that mines does not.
If they were set up as closely as possible part for part the SR would be $250 more. For a complete piston gun that is backed by a manufacturer that seems pretty fair.
Edit: I'm not saying that you don't have a nice rifle that is well set up, just arguing the point that the Ruger is overpriced.
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August 23rd, 2012, 08:35 AM
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Ever conside a 9mm carbine (like the hi point or the kel tec)? They are cheap to buy and cheap to shoot. Save yourself $1000, which buys a lot of ammo & other stuff.
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August 23rd, 2012, 08:48 AM
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#25 | | Conserviberalitarian
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Originally Posted by KSR My rifle has $600 worth of stuff yours does not, and you have a $350 stock that mines does not.
If they were set up as closely as possible part for part the SR would be $250 more. For a complete piston gun that is backed by a manufacturer that seems pretty fair.
Edit: I'm not saying that you don't have a nice rifle that is well set up, just arguing the point that the Ruger is overpriced. | Ok, ok! I'm not trying to start a holy war! Besides the Geissele trigger I have no idea what kind of "stuff" you have in yours.
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