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This is a discussion on Accu-strut for Mini 14? within the Ruger Semi-Auto forums, part of the Rifle & Shotgun Forum category; I'm thinking about getting an accu-stut(or any other) for my 581 model & am wondering if it's necessary or worth it. Any input is appreciated....


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Old January 4th, 2012, 10:46 AM   #1
 
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Accu-strut for Mini 14?

I'm thinking about getting an accu-stut(or any other) for my 581 model & am wondering if it's necessary or worth it. Any input is appreciated.



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Old January 4th, 2012, 11:11 AM   #2
 
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Can't say either way since I sold my Mini before buying one, but I was going to buy the Mo-Rod for mine. I would think it was more for the older pencil barrel rifles, but I would think it would help some but not as much on the newer models.
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I think you need to benchmark your rifle's accuracy first. The problem solved by the stabilizers is a whip in the barrel as the round exits. This was a larger concern for the early slim profile barrels, though no barrel is immune.

The 580 & 581 series may have the tapered, heavier barrel introduced in 2008. Many 580 & 581 series guns produced from 2005-2007 still had the light barrel.

Benchmark your accuracy from a double rest, sand bags at both ends shoud do. Use several kinds of ammo that you might routinely shoot. I'd suggest 5 shot groups so that any fliers can be spotted.

If the gun will consistently group under 2" at 100 yards, I doubt you'll see much improvement, though any gun should benefit, just to a lesser degree. If it's grouping a more typical 3.5"-4" at 100 yds, then I would suggest you go ahead. Each make offered was been proven to help. I have noticed variations in quality and finish. It's generally a case of getting what you pay for.
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Old January 4th, 2012, 03:44 PM   #4
 
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It also helps dissipate heat from the barrel.
I've noticed quicker cool down and better groups when popping off a bunch of rounds.
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It also helps dissipate heat from the barrel.
I've noticed quicker cool down and better groups when popping off a bunch of rounds.
+1 on the above for my M30 tapered barrel as well as my M14. That does help with the fliers & stringing.
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Old January 4th, 2012, 05:37 PM   #6
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Agree with Schwammy. You will benefit with faster cool down of the barrel. Cooler barrel means better accuracy. I have the Mo-Rod and think it is well worth the investment. Just my 2 cents worth.
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I bought an Accu-Strut Socom just 'cause I like the way it looks....
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Old January 4th, 2012, 07:42 PM   #8
 
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I was looking into one of those before my Mini even made it home. After I took it out and put some trigger time in, I didn't see any reason to spend the money. (Mine's a 581 series also) I didn't buy my Mini for a bench rifle though. I have never sandbagged it. If I shoot it from a table or rest, I'm just using my hands to keep her steady. I shoot mine free standing quite often. I have some steel targets just for it and I do some paper punching with it too. For all practical purposes, it'll do anything you want it to do and you'll probably never notice the difference in one that'll group 2" and one that'll group 4" @ 100yds. (Unless you have it scoped. I use the good 'ol irons on mine.) If you're lookin' for a target rifle, I'd look elsewhere, like a bolt gun.
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If you're lookin' for a target rifle, I'd look elsewhere, like a bolt gun.
This is my SHTF gun(I forgot to mention it's the tactical, not a fan of the ATI stock though). I have a couple of bolts & shoot open sights with everything except my Mauser & my 10/22, I'm giving the red dot a chance & so far I like it. I'm considering throwing some sort of optics on the Mini 14 & am considering everything but a scope(I bought it used & it came with a Redfield but threw it on my Mauser) & am open to suggestions on that topic as well. I'm also considering putting an XS Tritium Stripe on it(I noticed a significant difference when I threw a high viz front sight on my SKS). That being said, I was shooting it last week at 50yrds(I usually shoot at 100) & noticed my group was walking out after about a dozen rounds( from 2" to 4", about the same from a 100yrs, but 50?) from the bench. I heard about the barrels heating up quickly(& noticed mine did as well since I got it) & read mixed reviews about struts helping that. My reason for going the Mini 14 is it's simple proven design, ease of field stripping & it's reputation as being rugged & reliable, which it's proven to be. Now that I have it, it's time to trick it out & tune it up. Thank you everybody for the feedback.
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I have a 580 series with the heavier barrel and installed an Accu-strut to see if I could notice an improvement. Using a scope and bipod at 100 yards I did see a slight improvement. I like the looks and it will keep the barrel cooler if you do some rapid fire exercises. I now have a red dot on it and removed the bipod and at 50 yards, I get fairly good groups using a rest. Plan on practicing with a sling from the sitting and standing positions with the red dot.
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I was shooting it last week at 50yrds(I usually shoot at 100) & noticed my group was walking out after about a dozen rounds( from 2" to 4", about the same from a 100yrs, but 50?) from the bench.
The way I understand it, it dosen't really make your groups tighter, but holds the groups you get with a cold barrel. If it would keep it from doubling group sizes, I guess it would be worth the money. If I ever sat down and benched my Mini, I might get the same results. I may have to sit down and bench it now, just so I will know if it's doing the same as yours.
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Old January 5th, 2012, 10:04 PM   #12
 
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I put a Mo-Rod on my Mini and it has helped tighten up my groups. That being said, I also bedded the barrel and reciever which also helped. The guy that makes the Mo-Rod is a real gem to deal with as I had a problem with my order. He made things right and went the extra mile to fix my problem.
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I replaced my front sight with a Mo-Reaper flash suppressor and it certainly made a difference in recoil.
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Old January 8th, 2012, 04:37 PM   #14
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And yes, with the Mo=Reaper your flash from your barrel will be down to nothing. I can attest to that fact. Plus to me the sight is easier to use. A dot on the target vice the blade. Just my 2 cents worth.
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I notice on the site it mentions that they don't fit Mini-14 Target models. I'm guessing the Mini 14 Target models don't need this?

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