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Old January 30th, 2017, 10:21 AM   #1
 
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Muzzle Break, or Flash Hider?

I have the AR 556. I'm still new to this, but from what i read, a muzzle break reduces recoil, but is louder, while a flash hider does just that, reduces or hides the flash? I think i'd prefer more control over barrel rise then hiding the flash. Do you need a special wrench to remove the original unit, or will an adjustable wrench do it? What do you personally use and do you like it? I saw a video where a guy is testing muzzle breaks with his AR mounted to a sled. One break with minimal movement is the Dynamic Resistance break with 2 ports. Anyone use that?
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Old January 30th, 2017, 10:37 AM   #2
 
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Muzzle Break, or Flash Hider?

There are some hybrid muzzle devices that do a little of both well. Check out the VG6 epsilon (I think). I have one on one of my rifles and love it. What is the primary use for your rifle? If it's for home defense I'd say stick with the oem birdcage. Not only for the reduction in muzzle blast but also for the reduced flash. No need to hurt your hearing and blind yourself more than you necessary in that type of situation. If it's gonna be a range only gun then there is no harm in changing it out (besides annoying the heck out of the person shooting next to you).

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Are you shooting competitive three gun? You have developed your skills to the point that muzzle-rise is the limiting factor? What I'm getting at is that unless one of the above is the case you might want to re-think the issue. Recoil just doesn't seem to be an issue with a .223 for me. I do know that muzzle-brakes are LOUD. I know how annoying it is when the guy next to me at the range is not only bouncing hot brass off my head, but also defeating my hearing protection by diverting muzzle gasses in my direction. Brakes also increase the rifle's signature when firing prone by blowing dust and grass into the air. I use my AR for fun and defense. I'm keeping my flash hider because it does what I need. Tell us what you plan to do with the rifle, and how dealing with recoil is affecting that. I am interested. Happy shooting with your AR-556!
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I should have included that i mostly shoot at outside ranges, but sometimes indoors too. Basically target shooting. Self defense? Well, i have the 9mm for that. And i don't want to blast the person next to me, so if all breaks increase blast, then maybe i should leave it alone.
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Living in CA, we are now given the choice of a muzzle brake / compensator or flash-hider. If going with flash-hider on an AR (along with other features), then it has to be registered as an assault weapon.
I put a Seekins compensator on my AR. It slightly reduced the minimal recoil while increasing the muzzle blast to the back / sides.
My wife was standing at my 8:30 while I was shooting. With every shot her hair would fly back.

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Brakes will increase the side noise. All of them, just to varying degrees. Recoil reduction, to me, is not significant.

The only reason to get a brake is to help control muzzle rise. A .223 does not have a great deal of muzzle rise to begin with.

Flash hider is also a relative term. It does not eliminate flash by any means.

For a .223, I would not recommend a brake.

A well designed brake (e.g., those made by PWS) will not kick up dust (which really is only a consideration when firing prone).
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I put the "Yankee Hill Machine Flash Hider, Phantom 5C2 Aggressive" on mine. It has a little more material on the bottom to help some with muzzle rise and dirt when prone, but is still really a flash hider.

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I put the "Yankee Hill Machine Flash Hider, Phantom 5C2 Aggressive" on mine. It has a little more material on the bottom to help some with muzzle rise and dirt when prone, but is still really a flash hider.

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I second what garyj said. It is combination flash hider and comp. I noticed a major difference compared to the standard A2 flash hider. I was able to get the muzzle back on target much faster for follow up shots.
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Check out a linear compensator. They direct the blast forward so it is quieter to the shooter, does offer some flash protection and also softens the recoil for better follow up shots. I am a fan of the BRT covert comp. I have it on both my 5.56 and my 6.8spc.
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Brakes will increase the side noise. All of them, just to varying degrees. Recoil reduction, to me, is not significant.

The only reason to get a brake is to help control muzzle rise. A .223 does not have a great deal of muzzle rise to begin with.

Flash hider is also a relative term. It does not eliminate flash by any means.

For a .223, I would not recommend a brake.

A well designed brake (e.g., those made by PWS) will not kick up dust (which really is only a consideration when firing prone).
That is correct. ONLY reason I use a flash hider is to prevent anything from getting into the end of the barrel unseen like dirt/mud and creating a big problem.
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Are you shooting competitive three gun? You have developed your skills to the point that muzzle-rise is the limiting factor? What I'm getting at is that unless one of the above is the case you might want to re-think the issue. Recoil just doesn't seem to be an issue with a .223 for me. I do know that muzzle-brakes are LOUD. I know how annoying it is when the guy next to me at the range is not only bouncing hot brass off my head, but also defeating my hearing protection by diverting muzzle gasses in my direction. Brakes also increase the rifle's signature when firing prone by blowing dust and grass into the air. I use my AR for fun and defense. I'm keeping my flash hider because it does what I need. Tell us what you plan to do with the rifle, and how dealing with recoil is affecting that. I am interested. Happy shooting with your AR-556!
Thanks for your insight. I'm just shooting and getting comfortable. Nothing competitive. My hands are too shaky for competition!
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Check out a linear compensator. They direct the blast forward so it is quieter to the shooter, does offer some flash protection and also softens the recoil for better follow up shots. I am a fan of the BRT covert comp. I have it on both my 5.56 and my 6.8spc.
Never heard of these til now. Will look into them. Thanks.
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Appreciate all your responses.
How difficult is it to remove the factory flash hider? Special wrench required?
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Get an armorer's wrench and that will have the tool you need. Plus will have the other tools you need for most work you could do on an AR.
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Can't recall if the factory flashhider has flats on it or not. Many do, A simple open end wrench can often be used to remove them.
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