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Old May 2nd, 2010, 07:32 PM   #1
 
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Changing Sites on Mini-14?

Howdy Gang,

Anyone have information on changing the sites on an older Mini-14 to the newer style ghost right rear and :winged" front post?



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Old May 8th, 2010, 03:40 PM   #2
 
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If it's a Ranch Style (flip-up Peep) and not the original Mini-14 with the Garand style rear sight, I offer the following suggestions for rear sights. Unless you really have your heart set on the Ghost Ring here are a couple of options. I have changed rear sights on two different Ranch Models in the past. Two good rear sights to consider are as follows:

1. Rear Sight Assembly for the M1903A3 Springfield. A lot of people use the rear sight assembly for the M-1 Carbine (picture below)


but I like the one for the M1903A3 better. It's has more range settings and adjustments.



This Product No. 524260 $29.20 at Numrich. Rear Sight Assembly, Replacement

2. Williams Gun Sight makes a good Micrometer Sight that fits the Ranch. It's the FP series 11-87. I'd suggest ordering the FP-11-87-TK with the Target Knobs. Code 31679.


Williams also has other rear sights that fit the Mini-14 you may or may not like better.

FP Series Sights
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Gunny, how did you mount your 03A3 sight? Recut the dovetail on it?
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Gunny, how did you mount your 03A3 sight? Recut the dovetail on it?
I was fortunate to be a Instructor at the School of Infantry at the time. One of the Armorer's did it for me but yes, He recut the dovetail to match the dovetail slot on the rifle. I used the little plate that came with the original peep and the screw. It's listed in the parts catalog as the Rear Sight Windage Lock and Rear Sight Windage Lock Screw.
The William's Micrometer Sight set-up was much more robust than I would have imagined and gave very minute corrections that a M1903 or M-1 Carbine sight doesn't. Plus, with the target knobs I could lock/unlock the sight by hand. Some may prefer the 03' or M-1 Carbine Sight however as they are more of a combat type sight and gives the Mini that Carbine or Garand type appearance. I was satisfied with both types. Of course this was before the new mini with this new rear sight. I haven't had the chance to handle or shoot one yet but I hear the sight is well liked.

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Thanks, Gunny. I've got a 580 with the new sight and it is an improvement. I do some 300-350 yard shooting occasionally though, and a the OEM sight's elevation is controlled by screwing the aperture up & down. This requires taking a hex wrench to the lock screws, which also control windage, so every time you loosen/tighten them you can get a little windage variation. Not an ideal arrangement for changing elevation in the field.

My ideal solution would be a base that allows the use of A2 flip-up sights, which provide a battle aperture and another set for about 300 yards. I'll eventually tear mine down and see what it would take to adapt the A2 to the 580's receiver.
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What I always wanted and saw a guy do on a forum years back, was make a real honest to goodness Garand Rear Sight Base for a Mini. I wish I would have downloaded the photos that guy posted. I wonder if those pictures are still out there somewhere? He said he was gonna go into business making them but I guess he never did. If I had the machinery and know-how I'd do it myself. I always thought it might be possible to take a old mini with the original sights (Garand style) and modify it and the Garand Rear Sight Parts to work together. Don't know if this is possible or not but I guess it would have been done by now if it was. In my opinion, the two best rear sights that have ever been made were the M-1 Garand/M-14 and the M16A2 rear. I doubt the M16A2 could ever work on a Mini though as it would raise the rear sight way too high of course.

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Thanks for all of your input. Adapting the 03A3 sight sounds like something I might pursue, I have a friend with a machine shop in his garage. He just doesn't trust me enough (yet) to turn me lose with his new mill.
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Great post with lots of good info.
Thanks Gunny, and thanks for your service so that my family and myself get to enjoy the freedoms that Obama is taking away one by one .

Best Regards, John K
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Great post with lots of good info.
Thanks Gunny, and thanks for your service so that my family and myself get to enjoy the freedoms that Obama is taking away one by one .

Best Regards, John K
Your welcome but honestly it was a privilege for me to be a Marine. I just wish I could still be active but old warhorses have to go to pasture eventually.
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I kinda kina know what you mean. I spent 15 years as a LEO.
I really don't like the direction that I see a lot of law enforcement departments going today, but I do miss the rush.
I was a teenager and watched my father go to Viet Nam 3 times. I missed having a father most of my teen years.
And then when they got back, they got spit on. Saw the old man stomp a couple of those hippies. Made me feel much better. I'm not sure how much it helped him though.
I also really feel for our troups today. I think that they are in another Viet Nam and that our Chump in Chief is going to pull all our brave men and woman out without a victory. There will end up being a lot of spilled blood and fallen hero's and there will be little to show for it
Either win the damn war or get out. This policy of no collateral damage and fighting with one hand tied behind their backs just makes me sick.
Our guys could win any war they are in if they would just let them fight. They are the best in the world.
God Bless them for doing their job. Lousy war or not, they are all heros, and God Bless You.

Best Regards, John K

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Yeah, I had my experience with friends being killed for nothing. It was in Beirut, Lebanon in 83'.
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Sorry for getting off subject, but Gunny, you will love this.
I was a Security Manager at a large casino. There was this Gunny who used to come in and play the machines.
He had cancer from the Orange Crush in Nam.
Anyway, he walked all bent over with a cane. What people didn't know was that he was a true Grand Master in one of the Martial Arts.
He looked like the easiest mark in the world for any criminal.
One day I saw 3 guys moving towards him on the far side of the parking lot. They jumped him. I was too far away to get there in time to help him, but as it turned out he didn't need one lick of help.
These three guys jumped him and as fast as you could blink your eye, using his cane, he layed out all three. They all had to go to the ER in the back of Medic wagons. Two were uncouncious, the third bleeding pretty badly.
The local Sheriff was pretty impressed as was I.
Just goes to show that sometimes you just need to know who you're messing with, especially if it's a Marine.

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There are instructions on how to modify the M1 Carbine sight on PerfectUnion.com - Firearms Enthusiasts.
Go to the Mini section and look under the tips section.

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Good info! This is the link to take you straight there.
M-1 Carbine Sight For Ranch Mini's - PerfectUnion BBS
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Now days my eyes are so stinking bad that irons are outa the question, I might just as well instinct shoot. I have to use optics or nuthing!
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