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Old December 29th, 2016, 05:42 PM   #16
 
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Kinda defeats the purpose of the design... but not sure what was so bad about the original, spring loaded design in the first place.
Then if you do not like the design then sell it and buy another brand maybe? Ruger has their quirks but still a great weapon in my opinion.



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Then if you do not like the design then sell it and buy another brand maybe? Ruger has their quirks but still a great weapon in my opinion.
Simmer down.... if you can't see that the screw on delta ring looked great on paper but has not been as great in execution...
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Kinda defeats the purpose of the design... but not sure what was so bad about the original, spring loaded design in the first place.
If it ain't broke don't fix it.

Not so uncommon to look good on paper sitting behind a desk. The actually getting it to work out in the field is where the skill factor comes in.
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Simmer down.... if you can't see that the screw on delta ring looked great on paper but has not been as great in execution...
Far more people have had no problems whatsoever with Ruger's delta ring, just the few that express their complaints online. Most of those are from people who OVER TIGHTENED the ring by mistake thinking they were loosening it and that caused the problem. Ruger has sold tens of thousands of AR-556's and a small handful had issues. As for me and most others, I like Ruger's delta ring design. It's easy to take on and off when cleaning or changing hardware.
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Far more people have had no problems whatsoever with Ruger's delta ring, just the few that express their complaints online. Most of those are from people who OVER TIGHTENED the ring by mistake thinking they were loosening it and that caused the problem. Ruger has sold tens of thousands of AR-556's and a small handful had issues. As for me and most others, I like Ruger's delta ring design. It's easy to take on and off when cleaning or changing hardware.
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Far more people have had no problems whatsoever with Ruger's delta ring, just the few that express their complaints online. Most of those are from people who OVER TIGHTENED the ring by mistake thinking they were loosening it and that caused the problem. Ruger has sold tens of thousands of AR-556's and a small handful had issues. As for me and most others, I like Ruger's delta ring design. It's easy to take on and off when cleaning or changing hardware.
And you know this how? Look how many have had issues with it on just this site. Most owners do not post on this site. Right now there are 5 members online, and 45 guests... this website gets a fraction of those tens of thousands of owners that you speak of. More than "just a few" have had issues with this delta ring.

And who is this "most others" that you speak of? Are you speaking for all AR owners in general? I can say with pretty good authority that most others who own ARs other than Ruger don't like it. Go to AR forums that get much more traffic than this one, and it becomes pretty apparent.

The OP said his was locked up right out of the box. We have seen that posted a few times. Let's pretend though that it is all user error... users are over-tightening them and getting them stuck... never seen that happen with the normal delta ring design.

As far as easy to take off, what is more easier than the spring loaded delta assembly? You push back on the ring and pull the hand guards out. And it's not like you take the guards off very often anyway. The screw on delta ring is gimmicky at best.

I understand that you like your rifle, and it has some good stuff... and kudos to Ruger for trying to do something a little different, but that doesn't mean that I have to bow at the alter of Ruger and say everything is great. You have your opinion, and I have mine.
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I am one of those in the "not broke, don't fix it category". I have a delta ring tool in my range bag. What I DON'T have in my range bag and have no reason to, is a strap wrench. This and a few other oddities that make no sense is the reason my Ruger AR went bye bye and I kept the M&P.

Most people? not sure who "most people" are, but I would wager a guess that with the vast popularity of the AR, that many of these people have no idea what a delta ring even is. Many have an AR just because they can and as such have never touched the delta ring and never will. So we don't know how many are locked up. Can guarantee it is vastly more of a problem than the spring loaded ones are. Hence, it's a problem that was created that shouldn't have been
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What is this "hand tight" thing? Do you guys say hand tighten the barrel nut just hand tight then go shoot it?
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The Ruger delta ring, which keeps the hand guards on is threaded instead of spring loaded. They are saying hand tight on the delta ring. Has zero to do with barrel nut
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The Ruger delta ring, which keeps the hand guards on is threaded instead of spring loaded. They are saying hand tight on the delta ring. Has zero to do with barrel nut
Thank you msp, I was a little confused, thanks for clearing that up.
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In theory, the Ruger idea was good, albeit uneeded. A large barrel nut with external threads and the ring threads on outside of barrel nut. Spin nut towards receiver and guards come off. Replace guards, spin nut toward guards and it locks them on. Sounds easy right? In theory yes, but hasn't worked that way for whatever reason. Dissimilar material components rarely thread together cleanly. Especially where heat an other things such as powder residue can be an issue. I suspect that's the problem here. It could also be that tightening the barrel nut distorts it slightly, making ring hard to thread on. Hard to say, but is a well known issue.
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I just replaced the handguard om my new AR 556. I installed the magpul mag424 install took less than 2 mins delta ring was finger tight at best. I sure like the feel and look.
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And you know this how? Look how many have had issues with it on just this site. Most owners do not post on this site. Right now there are 5 members online, and 45 guests... this website gets a fraction of those tens of thousands of owners that you speak of. More than "just a few" have had issues with this delta ring.

And who is this "most others" that you speak of? Are you speaking for all AR owners in general? I can say with pretty good authority that most others who own ARs other than Ruger don't like it. Go to AR forums that get much more traffic than this one, and it becomes pretty apparent.

The OP said his was locked up right out of the box. We have seen that posted a few times. Let's pretend though that it is all user error... users are over-tightening them and getting them stuck... never seen that happen with the normal delta ring design.

As far as easy to take off, what is more easier than the spring loaded delta assembly? You push back on the ring and pull the hand guards out. And it's not like you take the guards off very often anyway. The screw on delta ring is gimmicky at best.

I understand that you like your rifle, and it has some good stuff... and kudos to Ruger for trying to do something a little different, but that doesn't mean that I have to bow at the alter of Ruger and say everything is great. You have your opinion, and I have mine.
In public forums you will find there are more complaints then people being happy because you want to let everybody know that you are unhappy and are looking for support. Carry on and have a great day!
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