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Old August 15th, 2009, 11:30 PM   #1
 
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Educate me on the Mini-14 580's?

Hey guys. Haven't been around in a while.

Coming up here towards Christmastime (it's only 4 1/2 months away!) I'll be getting my grubby hands on a new, 580-series Mini 14/20. The going rate around here for a NIB 580 is like $600.

Now, I've had a little (60 rounds or so) of trigger time on a 580, and I really, really liked it. But, I don't honestly know all that much about them.

So I'm looking to learn as much as I can about them before I have it in my hands.

Now, as I understand, the rings that come with the new Minis are 24(?)mm? Does anybody make a 30mm ring set, or will I have to invest in an aftermarket mount and ring set? I'd like to doll it up with a shorty Leupold, like a 1.5-5x20mm VX-3; not a huge amount of magnification, but enough.

Also, will the AC-556 side-folding stocks fit the 580 series? I'd really like to get my hands on one of those bad boys. Any clue where I might find one of those, that's not already attached to a rifle? I looked on gunbroker, but there were no stocks listed, and only one rifle listing had both a folder and a solid stock that maybe I could talk the guy into parting with. I suppose I could get like a Butler Creek side-folder, but it really loses something if it's not the original.

Do you guys think an Accu-strut would help any? The 580 I shot before had one, but we didn't take it off so I didn't have anything to compare groups to.

And lastly (for now), does anybody happen to have any experience shooting Hornady TAP FPD's out of their Mini? I seem to remember reading somewhere that they'd shoot something like <2" at 100 yards (With a decent shooter), which would be just peachy for me, since TAP is pretty much my favorite go-to ammo for any kind of serious situation. If they shoot as good as that, I think this would be an awesome setup; I can have a Mini, a couple magazines, and nice scope and mount/rings for just about what I'd be starting out at for a decent AR.



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Old August 16th, 2009, 11:40 AM   #2
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Rapier, The new Mini-14s are quite an improvement from the older ones. The heavier barrel does improve accuracy ... especially in rapid fire. No, the AC-556 stock won't work ... totally different profile; however Ruger sells some nice aftermarket stocks that will fit the Mini. See: http://shopruger.com/Stocks/products/538/

If you call Ruger and make arrangements, they will swap your 1" rings for 30mm rings at no cost (yours must be brand new). You do have to send yours in first before they will swap. It may take a few weeks but considering blued rings sell for $34 each and stainless are $40.50 each, it would be worth the wait. See: http://shopruger.com/searchprods.asp...number=1&val=0

My shooting buddy has both the Mini-14 Target and the new Mini-14 Ranch. I have an old pre-Ranch Mini. We took the three guns out to the range just for grins. The Mini-Target shot 1 MOA groups, the new Mini would shoot 1.5 to 2 MOA groups depending on the rate of fire. My old Mini would shoot 2.5 MOA groups, provided I spaced my shots 5 minutes apart. In rapid fire, my groups would spread to 5 MOA. We were shooting my reloads in all three guns (55 gr Nosler Ballistic tip, 26.5 gr Varget).

I really don't think you'll need an Acu-strut with the new Mini but who knows ... it might just make a big difference.
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Awesome, thank you.

It's sort of sad that the 556 stock won't fit, it's very awesome looking. If I could get a new model 14 with that stock, I'd probably buy 3. Along with a Mini 30 with more than a 5-round magazine.

I'll probably keep the wood stock, because it looks classy, and "just right".

Looking at the rings, I think I may be better off getting like a B-Square side mount, if only because it doesn't obstruct the iron sights, which is something I'd like to avoid if at all possible. Plus it might help prevent scope dings; having a .223 case bounce off the bottom of a $600 Leupold might just put me in a foul mood. Not very likely, but I'd like to not risk it.

Other than that, I just need to find some pouches to fit the factory 20-rounders.
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AC 556/ Mini 14 GB Factory wood folder on a 580 series

The Mini 14 GB wood folding stock WILL fit on the new 580 series rifle. I am setting here looking at a new 580 series tactical flashider model in an Ac-556/Mini 14 GB wood factory folder. The key to getting it to fit was using the forearm stock liner from the new 580 tactical, and a new 580 series stock reinforcement bracket in the magwell. With the older original liner that was in the wood folder, the 580 would not fit. Once these two parts were changed out with current parts, the action only required a few taps with a rubber mallet on the rear of the receiver, and it seated right in. Ill try and get a picture tomorrow sometime for a visual reference.
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The Mini 14 GB wood folding stock WILL fit on the new 580 series rifle. I am setting here looking at a new 580 series tactical flashider model in an Ac-556/Mini 14 GB wood factory folder. The key to getting it to fit was using the forearm stock liner from the new 580 tactical, and a new 580 series stock reinforcement bracket in the magwell. With the older original liner that was in the wood folder, the 580 would not fit. Once these two parts were changed out with current parts, the action only required a few taps with a rubber mallet on the rear of the receiver, and it seated right in. Ill try and get a picture tomorrow sometime for a visual reference.
That would be absolutely awesome sir.
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