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Old May 26th, 2016, 05:33 AM   #136
 
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In a word, no. Not accurate, too many issues with expensive parts, jamming, etc.
Do you even own one? Have you ever shot one? Most Mini owners rave about their lack of jamming and ruggedness so either you got a lemon and didn't give Ruger's great CS a chance to make it right or you're just irresponsibly relaying internet nonsense you've heard with no basis in fact to support it.



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Old May 26th, 2016, 06:32 AM   #137
 
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I have an older late-70's Mini-14 and I love it, AR's are just tools to me, I don't look forward to shooting them or want to buy any more.............., my Mini feels like a real rifle. Maybe the fact that I spent 15+ years of my early shooting life collecting and shooting military surplus rifles has something to do with it, but I always gravitate back towards steel and wood.

In fact high on my list is a stainless Mini 14 and a 30, if they don't come with wood I'm going to buy a wood stock for them. My older Mini is starting to border on a "cool older collectible" and less of a "all purpose usin' gun" and I don't put many rounds through it.

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Old May 26th, 2016, 01:57 PM   #138
 
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Had one for several years. Cut the barrel to 16" and moved the sight back. Installed a flash hider. Tried a few different stocks. An Aimpoint was used on it.

Not a bad gun. Lightweight. Fun to shoot. Reliable. Just one of the few that wasn't a keeper for me.

It was sold to buy AR-15 stuff. That's just my preference.
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I just recently got the bug for a Mini 14 and picked up a brand new wood stock, blued barrel ranch rifle at my LGS. I had read up a little about them so I went ahead and orderd the accu strut and the choate hand guard. I did it as much for looks as I did for function. So far, I love this dang thing! Ive got 2 ARs but ive just never fell in love with them. With the 5 round magazine in my mini, it slides in between the seat and the console of my truck and stays there. Perfect for a farm gun.

Im probably going to scope this one. I like mine so much that I may sell one of my ARs just so I can buy another Mini 14 and leave it in irons.

This was literally the first 5 shots out of this rifle. First shot was low but I figured out the trigger and the next 4 were well within my expectations. Shot with irons at about 40 yds resting the forend on my back porch rail. I didn't even have to adjust sights.


The next 10


For the first time I've used iron sights on a rifle in years, I'll take it.

edit. not sure why but the pictures are rotated sideways.

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Old June 28th, 2016, 08:15 AM   #140
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Don't even think about getting an M1A then.
I've owned 4 different M1A's and all four ran 100% reliably right out of the box. Not one misfire, FTF, FTE, ever. Nada. Zip. Zilch. OTOH, two of my three Mini's had issues ranging from minor/annoying all the way up to not functioning reliably. In my experience suggesting that Mini14/30's are more reliable, more accurate and less problematic than an M1A is just simply not true. The bottom line is I still own an M1A but I don't currently own a Mini. There's a reason for that. YMMV.
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I'm glad I got my piece of crap Mini... 21 years strong and still shootin'
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In a word, no. Not accurate, too many issues with expensive parts, jamming, etc.
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Don't even think about getting an M1A then.
I've owned 4 different M1A's and all four ran 100% reliably right out of the box. Not one misfire, FTF, FTE, ever. Nada. Zip. Zilch. OTOH, two of my three Mini's had issues ranging from minor/annoying all the way up to not functioning reliably. In my experience suggesting that Mini14/30's are more reliable, more accurate and less problematic than an M1A is just simply not true. The bottom line is I still own an M1A but I don't currently own a Mini. There's a reason for that. YMMV.
I'm not dissing the M1A or M14, rather commenting on it's cost. Not only have I owned and shot an M1A far longer than my Mini, I was an Armorer in the US Army and responsible for over 300 M14s so I know the platform. My MN sighted M1A is the reason my Mini Ranch Rifle sits in my collection and I tried to mimic the look of my M1A in the Mini. What my quote was aimed at was more the expense of the M1A parts if they do fail as well as the cost of shooting it vs the .223, i.e. Joewisc's comment about expensive parts. The Mini is considerably cheaper to address than the M1A but both are excellent platforms. Of all my military platforms, my M1A is hands down my favorite. I shoot it as much as I can, practicing on the same 200yd bowling pins I do with my Mini.

As far as accuracy, my standard M1A is about a 1-1 MOA shooter with handloads. That's about the same accuracy as my 583 Series Mini with a few tweaks. Yes, an M1A Super Match is much more accurate but then than either, however, if one spends the money to accurize a Mini including a heavy barrel and all the other ASI tricks, it performs well too. Maybe not as well as a race M1A but then it doesn't cost $3-5K either.

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Ok. I understand better what you were implying and I agree wth you about M1A accuracy. The idea that a typical M1A is super accurate is a myth. In my experience a standard version shooting factory ammo is about a 2 MOA gun and the loaded versions aren't usually any better despite the better sights and barrel. You can tighten that up a bit with hand loads but you won't see any noticeable improvement until you get into the National Match versions. The standard/loaded can be made exceptionally accurate but not without considerable expense. You're better off buying a National Match or Supermatch from the get go if sub MOA is the goal.
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I'm seriously thinking about selling my barely-used Windham AR to buy a new, basic Mini 14. Here in Calif, the AR restrictions look like they're only going to get worse. I'd rather have a 'nice' wood-stocked, blued steel .223 sporting rifle than one of those "evil, pistol-gripped, plastic and alloy assault rifles"...
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I'm seriously thinking about selling my barely-used Windham AR to buy a new, basic Mini 14. Here in Calif, the AR restrictions look like they're only going to get worse. I'd rather have a 'nice' wood-stocked, blued steel .223 sporting rifle than one of those "evil, pistol-gripped, plastic and alloy assault rifles"...
As I've said before, I have 3 ARs and I can honestly say that I prefer to take out my Mini Ranch Rifle. Yes, it's a half pound heavier than my S&W Magpul Mid AR carbine with a 30rd mag but it's less bulky and just feels better. As an irons gun, it's light, maneuverable, and just fun.
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Looks like it's a go...

A friend of mine hopped on the AR sale in a hot second. We'll do the transfer asap. I've gotten a price of $780 (plus sales tax and dros fee) from my FFL for a basic #5801 Ranch Rifle. I was first introduced to the Mini 14 via a friend's 181- series rifle I shot a bit in the early 1980's. Now, I get my own...!

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I just did something last weekend I have never done before - I bought a "duplicate" firearm. I have a 181-series GB - my first firearm - that I've had since 1980. It is my all-out favorite weapon, but I have been hesitant to do any permanent mods to it as I want to keep it all-original. It is nowhere near worn out and in the 36 years I've shot it, I have never had a single failure. Ever.

But I wanted a second .223/5.56 semi, was debating an SU-16C, or a DPMS Oracle. I finally decided I like my Mini so much, it should have a cousin. So I ordered a Mini-14 Tactical last weekend, will probably arrive next week. It'll come with a synthetic stock which I may or may not like; but I have a wooden Choate folder that came with my Mini, and that is probably what will go on the Tactical - just seems right!

$790 shipped from Tombstone Tactical (includes insurance), plus another $20 transfer fee through my LGS.

This one, I'll toy with...Tech sights, probably a reduced-port gas bushing set, and an UltiMak. My TRS-25 will go on the UltiMak with a QD so I can do irons if I want..

I know, "pictures or it didn't happen"...well, it hasn't happened yet! But here's the stock on my 181GB that will go on the Tactical (I have a standard Ruger Wood stock my 181 is wearing now).

In answer to the OP's original question 146 posts before, I guess the answer is "yes":
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I just did something last weekend I have never done before - I bought a "duplicate" firearm.
Two of the same is never a bad idea. I have 2 fox shot guns made in different eras, and two marlin lever guns, one is a 35 and the other is a 30-30. I hope to soon have another mini 14, I made my old 188 into a target rifle now I want a SBR Mini 14 that would resemble a AC556, but not the paratrooper model.
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Two of the same is never a bad idea. I have 2 fox shot guns made in different eras, and two marlin lever guns, one is a 35 and the other is a 30-30. I hope to soon have another mini 14, I made my old 188 into a target rifle now I want a SBR Mini 14 that would resemble a AC556, but not the paratrooper model.
I never thought it was a bad idea, just something I didn't pursue. While my wife shoots some, it is pretty much just me. I own a fairly wide range of firearms, two of which were inherited so seldom get shot. My 10/22 and my Marlin 99M1 are the two .22s that get shot most often in that caliber. I can only shoot one at a time...I don't hunt and don't target shoot, so it is pretty much plinking at coffee creamer bottles at about 50 yds. My Mini is the most fun at that and serves as a perfect farm defense weapon. There really was no reason to get a second one except I wanted another .223/5.56 carbine and after all was said and done, the Mini Tactical won out. My nephew will be happy, too when he inherits it.
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Hi All- I am new here and just posting as a measure of thanks for all the great info you have shared. I am new to this forum business - not even sure if this will be read as the last post here was some months ago.... but here goes.

I probably would NOT buy another Mini.... maybe an M1

I love my mini, a 188, but yeah, the accuracy - about 7 inch groups on a good day. It went in the closet for a long time. So just for S&g's I put a cheapo ATI strikeforce on it. The mini was (is) my go-to gun for a while so some rails were desired for a light. The unexpected benefit I got from the ATI stock was the folding stock, taking overall length down to 28.5" folded. Most AR pistols are about 28". I have a Vortex Razor reflex on the mini and it is super fun to shoot. And fairly light weight - I carry my guns in the mountains.

I just had to accept the MINI for what it is - ultra reliable but not real accurate without upgrades I had no desire to make. I am sure in years to come, my 188 will morph into other jobs but I sure love it's portability with the ATI. And I still have my 17.5" barrel which keeps my velocity way above any AR pistol with likely similar accuracy. So, just offering a different way to look at the adaptability of this great little gun.

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