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Old January 23rd, 2016, 05:01 PM   #1
 
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Ar 556 troubles.

I am highly disappointed in my new Ruger Ar 556. Fresh out of the box, ran a few dozen rounds through it. I used two different types of ammo. Both types keyholed the paper. So I contacted ruger and sent it back. It came back this week. The paper with it says they replaced the barrel assembly. So today I went out to the range. Now the bullets are hitting true, but after I picked up my brass it was all split. From the neck down to the shoulder. Guess I will call ruger again next week.



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Old January 23rd, 2016, 06:35 PM   #2
 
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Wow, that is disappointing. I think Ruger got behind in production from high demand and quality control went south.

My AR556 is going back next week also, came with only 1 of the 3 gas rings on the bolt, a loose castle nut on the buffer tube and questionable staking on the gas key.

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Old January 23rd, 2016, 07:21 PM   #3
 
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Seems like the quality has dropped when guns go back to the mothership then get returned with a new problem. Fortunately Ruger will make it right but really you shouldn't be the person doing the QC on the rifle. Good luck my friend.
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Just chiming in here, I was at my local range and a guy had the Ruger AR556 a he was having issues with his, rounds where getting stuck in the chamber, light primer strikes and feeding issues. He had this after disrespecting my PSA build, saying I had to much lube on my BCG, I just laughed it off.. He blamed it on the ammo he was using which he said was PMC bronze, that was the same ammo I was using along with Tulammo steel case.
I asked him if I could try some of his ammo in my AR to see if it was a ammo issue he said no and stated that mine wouldn't shoot it either since my AR was a built rifle, okay well mine performed flawlessly and his didn't.
Not sure what but I have seen this also with other AR556 rifles at my range. I guess QC went way south. I was thinking about purchasing one of these but instead build my own, kinda glad I just stuck with the Ruger pistols SR9 and SR45, love them both, shoot really well.
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Old January 23rd, 2016, 11:31 PM   #5
 
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The AR likes to run wet. When new I run then even more wet than when broken in and every 20 rounds or so add a bit more lube to the BCG.

I grew up with engineers , tool and die makers and machinists.

I learned the importance of Break-in and the goal of reducing friction.

Once broken in and the parts are worn to each other cut the lube a bit but still keep
The BCG wet.
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I became familiar with the AR Style rifle back in the 60's. As time moved on to today I've found that many problems with the AR platform can be blamed on magazines or ammo. The first M16s in Vietnam functioned terribly because the new rifle was using ammo made with old stockpiled powder. Once that was figured out, and the ammo improved, most problems went away. That problem does not exist today because modern ammo is more efficient but that doesn't mean a particular rifle won't have problems with certain ammo.

But I have found that more important than cleaning an AR is lubrication. I'm not advocating dirty rifles but I am promoting lots of lube on the bolt carrier group. The 4 rails of the bolt carrier needs lots of any good oil - maybe 2 or 3 drops each.

All rifles should start out clean and well lubricated. Then isolating the problem to mags, ammo, or the rifle, can be determined easier. Eliminate as many variables as possible when searching for the root of a problem.
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Ruger does indeed have QC issues. Thankfully they have good customer service, but it's a buzz kill and a PITA to have to send a new gun back.

For those talking about lubrication, I doubt the split case necks have anything to do with lubrication.
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Yep, I don't know why the cases are splitting but I doubt it's a lubrication issue.

Yep, it is a major buzz kill and a super PITA to ship any gun back to the manufacturer.
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I had to send mine back for FTF and eject. They had it for two weeks. They replaced the gas rings and had to tighten and restake the gas key. Thankfully I have run 200 rounds through it and it was flawless with excellant accuracy with 55, 60 and 69 grain bullet loads. As far as returning it. I put it in the original box and took it to a ruger dealer who sent it back for me. Don't know if every dealer is obligated too do so but Ruger customer service told me to do it that way
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Split cases have absolutely nothing to do with lubrication.

The cases are most likely splitting because - like almost ALL AR carbines on the market today - the AR556's are overgassed. This ensures reliable function, but it's also he11 on brass.

Check out your brass, double check against overgassing symptoms. If my suspicions are correct, grab an adjustable gas block and you'll be able to stop that splitting. (Or, grab a reamer, ream your port, and drop a bushing into your existing port)

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The AR likes to run wet. When new I run then even more wet than when broken in and every 20 rounds or so add a bit more lube to the BCG.

I grew up with engineers , tool and die makers and machinists.

I learned the importance of Break-in and the goal of reducing friction.

Once broken in and the parts are worn to each other cut the lube a bit but still keep
The BCG wet.
I disagree... the AR likes to run properly lubricated... being overly wet does not make a proper functioning AR work any better.
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OP, what ammo were you using that tumbled? What were you using when you got split cases?
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First off let me apologize about getting back to you allso slow. Although being in my early thirties, I don't much care for technology some times. More mechanical and enjoy real face time. Thank you for all the feed back. The brass that was splitting was Lake city arsenal factory loads. The other that did not split but was starting to crack was perfecta brand factory loads. Both were .223 it's chambered in 556. This is my first Ar so some of the advice given here I am not familiar with. As far as what parts to change. I am by trade a tool maker and went to gunsmithing school. But I never got into semi rifles such as the ar till this one. I worked out in Montana building sharps rifles. Now back east building plastic injection molds.
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Same issue with me. A few hundred rounds with no issues at all but I notice from day one a little play in the hand guard. Disassemble it and discover that the barrel nut is totally loose held only by the gas tube. Looks like it was never actually tightened in the first place. Since its new I send it back to Ruger for evaluation. I get it back two weeks later "barrel nut torqued" and now it won't cycle. Every round with multiple mags and different ammo is an FTE. Wondering if in reassembly after the nut torque something happened with the gas tube / block.

I know eventually they will make it right but it's a huge PITA to arrange for the shipping, wait another two weeks, and most importantly to lose some faith in the reliability of the AR even after "repair."
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Sounds like a gas issue. Perhaps damaged gas tube ?
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