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Old January 21st, 2016, 06:30 PM   #1
 
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Is this Gas key staked properly?

New to the AR556 and wondered if this is acceptable staking on the gas key?
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Old January 21st, 2016, 06:39 PM   #2
 
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I think it is not. Doesn't look staked at all. Bolt missing gas rings, gas key not staked, castle nut loose. Hmm, better check the head space. I would contact Ruger and have them check the entire rifle. Or return it to the seller.

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It didn't look too great in the 1st pic, and the 2nd pic is only slightly better. Either way, it's definitely not the best or worst I've ever seen. Just check it occasionally during cleaning.
When in doubt, I usually give mine a little extra crimp with a wide punch for piece of mind.
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Not even close.

It should look more like this.

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Jeff, as I have previously advised you, call Ruger customer service and send your rifle back. They clearly need to replace that one.
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Staking as my dad taught me requires taking a punch and smashing some of the material around the bolt head into the bolt head hard enough to deform the bolt's head.

Once done, the fastener would have to twist so hard that that material would have to pushed out of the way (back to where it came from) for the bolt to loosen up. Damn near impossible.

Unless you have deformed the fastener's head by smashing the surrounding material into it, you have staked snot.

Think about what that should look like then you'll realize; 1) how effective that would be at holding those screws in place 2) How all those gas keys are NOT REALLY staked in place.

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Not even close.

It should look more like this.

Yeah, thats a good example of what a properly staked gas key should look, like, on the OP's rifle, I do not consider that properly staked, from the many ar bolts I have seen. As others have stated I would contact customer service and report it. The other option which requires more money being spent is to purchase a tool like the one below to allow you to properly stake the key. I own one of these tools, since i build ar's, and sometimes stake my own keys ,it works great, but like I said it requires you to purchase something extra. I would try customer service first.

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Your rifle must have been built by the new guy... on a Friday... 10 minutes before quittin' time, and the QC guy already called it beer thirty.

I guess the positive thing is that they let one rifle out with 3 defects, vs. 3 rifles with a defect each.
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A hammer and punch with carefully aimed blows will take care of it, or send the bolt back to Ruger. A gunsmith could do it for you too.
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Absolutely contact Ruger. There are too many things wrong with that rifle already. And not little things either. They will make it right.
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Mine on my M&P 15 looks just like Scorpio's, I would definitely call Ruger CS
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Absolutely contact Ruger. There are too many things wrong with that rifle already. And not little things either. They will make it right.
Agree... Three things identified by the end user, yet missed by QC... The whole rifle is suspect in my mind at this point.
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Agree... Three things identified by the end user, yet missed by QC... The whole rifle is suspect in my mind at this point.
Agreed +1

If it was just the key staking I'd say just eat the cost and have a local smith take care of it. It beats the hassle of shipping two ways and fun time lost. But when you add in the loose castle nut and missing gas rings, it does not instill confidence in the rest of the assembly.

This rifle was assembled on a friday evening at beer:30 by a noob who needs to go back to the training camp.
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I have seen some stuff out of Ruger that makes me shake my head at the missed QC'ing, but this one is probably one of the most blatant examples I have seen for awhile. I would not only send it back, but send in a sternly worded note to them letting them know as well.
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I have seen some stuff out of Ruger that makes me shake my head at the missed QC'ing, but this one is probably one of the most blatant examples I have seen for awhile. I would not only send it back, but send in a sternly worded note to them letting them know as well.
Sending rifle back to be inspected and fixed.
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