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Old May 4th, 2015, 01:21 PM   #1
 
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Brand new AR-556 feeding problems

Just got my new AR-556 over the weekend and took it shooting today. Had 3 boxes of Tula 223 and 2 boxes of PMC (brass).

All I did is to take the gun out of the wrapper and wiped the oil from the surface of the gun.

Put my first full clip with Tula and on the 7th or 8th shot - strike (no fire). Ejected the round manually. Fired a few more (strike, no fire). Probably between 5 or 6 rounds were struck, but did not fire. On some of the misfires, rounds had some scratches on the case and on the tip itself.

So, after shooting 60 (minus misfires), I switched to PMC. Well, same thing, misfires and mis-feeding (or no feeding).

Any suggestions? This is my first AR. I am really not that familiar with the platform. Have an AK, Ruger 10/22, bunch of different pistols and a shotgun, but have never had an AR platform rifle.

What should I do? Don't clean just put more rounds through? Clean, oil, put more rounds? Package and send back to Ruger? Suck it up and don't cry over it????

I would appreciate some feedback from the professionals on the form.

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Old May 4th, 2015, 02:20 PM   #2
 
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Clean the chamber. Always clean the chamber on a new gun. And stop shooting steel case ammo in it. I work at a range, and can not count the number of times steel case ammo gets stuck in ARs!
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Welcome to the forum.

1. And clean the rest of the rifle, read you manual about cleaning and lubing. You never fire a new rifle without cleaning it.

2. You don't shoot steel case ammo in ARs, it crappy, dirty ammo. Why buy a decent rifle and shoot crap through it?

3. Since when did ARs come with clips? Most of the ones I shoot have mags.

Clean the rifle up, lube it good and get some good brass ammo and give it another whirl. If after that and it does not work, call Ruger and see what they tell you.
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Meant to say a magazine. Have 2 Magpul PMAG Gen2 magazines
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As people above me stated, clean the rifle first and foremost. And steel casings generally never work well (if at all) in AR platforms.

As for the feeding issue, if you are still having FTFs after the cleaning and ammo swap out, it might not hurt to try a steel GI magazine, or some other type of magazine. Some rifles have a tendancy to not work right with the P-MAGs due to how they sit in the magwell, failure to lock into place, etc. As much as I love P-MAGs, there are times they don't work.
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+1 on giving it a good cleaning. Take the bolt out and take the extracter out of it and clean it up really good. They come way over lubed from the factory. As stated, stay away from steel case as much as you can. It's very dirty, wears parts faster, and jams more often. I've been shooting nothing but pmc in mine and even though it's not the greatest ammo I haven't had any issues with it whatsoever. If all else fails, call Ruger and they will make it right. Good luck.
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There are a ton of threads on steel cased ammo and the myth on using them in an AR15's. Clean your gun really good after shooting steel cased and you will be fine! It is a lot dirtier round and requires more cleaning and lubing!
I have a M&P sport with over 3,000 rounds of Tula through it without one malfunction and my AR556 has seen about 500 rounds of Tula with no problems either. Just don't use the lacquer coated steel cased!!
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I would properly clean and lubricate it first. Then test ammo. My ARs do fine with steel and brass.
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I've owned three AR's none of them would eat steel ammo reliably so I finially gave up on the platform . Why some might ask ...well I don't consider an AR a target gun, or would I consider any firearm I own (that can hold a thirty round mag) a target gun ,for me it needs to function on any crap I decide to shove in it ! If it don't cycle it at the range how is going to cycle when you really need it ! I know many swear that there's will but I haven't be so lucky . In your case I would contact Ruger and give them a chance to get it right ,Wts I wouldn't tell them you ran steel through it they don't like to hear that ...like others have said give it a good cleaning then try it again before u send it back . Just my 2 cents
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OP, welcome to the Ruger forum, and congrats on your new rifle. Please let us know how things work out.
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I wouldn't call Ruger yet, you did not even properly clean it before your first outing so you have know idea if that was what caused the problems. Your malfunctions happened with brass and steel, so we know it was not the ammo's fault, so go from there!
If everyone calls Ruger the minute they have a problem, especially when they did not take the proper steps before shooting it for the first time. At some point Ruger will stop being so willing to repair there firearms for free! They do not have a written warranty and are just a great company that stands behind there firearms, but if we abuse their willingness to repair their mistakes and expect them to fix things that we did wrong there is a chance they will stop or make us jump through hoops to get the repairs done!
Clean the firearm properly and try it again!
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I had about the same problem last week with my new 556. The steel ammo I had would not feed. The brass ammo I had feed fine. I tried different mags and it didn't help. I cleaned the gun good really cleaning the barrel. Now it runs the steel ammo with no problem.
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My brothers AR Jammed with steel case Tula so he gave it to me, around 300rds!! Happy to say my Stag Model 2 ate it all up with no issues..
Some guns like it some don't. Sounds like you should stay away from it..
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Thank you very much for your thoughts and suggestions. Will clean, lube and try again.
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When cleaning make sure that you clean the chamber very good. See that it is nice and shinny. Use a good bore cleaner, Hoppes #9, Butch's Bore Cleaner, ect. get a copper brush the size of the chamber if you do not have a proper AR chamber brush, if not get one as you will need it. It cleans the chamber, feed ramps and the locking lugs at the same time.

Here's a link to what I talking about.
http://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&key...l_1e7ad0ylst_b

Steel case ammo is not the best thing to shoot in a new rifle. Most of it is cheaply made, shoots really dirty and some has a polymer coating that once the gun gets warm will melt onto the chamber walls and cause cases to stick in the chamber and could result in your extractor ripping off the end of the case leaving a hull stuck to the chamber and then the next round feeding, the bullet jamed into the end of the stuck case. It's not fun getting that undone and will result in the end of your range day.

Stick with brass ammo at least until you have the rifle broken in and proven it will function correctly with brass cased ammo and then if you still want to mess up your rifle shoot steel in it. You will have less malfunctions shooting brass ammo.

Then after you have cleaned it take both the pmags apart and make sure there is no debris or sharp edges inside that could cause the follower to hang up. Also numper the mags and as you have hang ups note which mag your using and which it occurs with more. That way you can tell which mag may be a bad one. Might not be a bad idea to buy yourself a few metal GI mags to see if your rifle operates better on pmags or GI mags. I have a supply of both and use them both a lot. I switch back and forth so I know they will work in any AR I own.

Keep us posted on your journey and sorry your off to a rough start but it will smooth out and then the fun begins.

Oh, by the way, post up photos of your rifle or as the saying goes, it didn't happen.

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