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This is a discussion on Mini 14 Accuracy Rant within the Ruger Semi-Auto forums, part of the Rifle & Shotgun Forum category; Originally Posted by ditto1958 We are fortunate to live in these times, as we have lots of choices. A Mini-14 and an AR will both ...


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Old October 27th, 2014, 07:10 AM   #61
 
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We are fortunate to live in these times, as we have lots of choices. A Mini-14 and an AR will both do what you are asking them to do, but each has its own personality, as well as its own strengths and weaknesses.
Or for about $100.00 you can have both. (almost)
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Old October 27th, 2014, 07:23 AM   #62
 
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Mine will reliably hit clay birds on bank to 300 yards.
Mine too. I very seldom read the articles about mini 14 accuracy because they really have never pertained to my mini. Love mine.
I don't want to be misinterpreted here but there was a statement that a shooter can't keep 7 out of 10 shots on a paper plate at 100yds with his mini. There is really something wrong there, really wrong. Mine will do at least that with a tennis ball any and every day,,,all day.
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Did I mention I love Mini threads. It is almost as good a politics and really should be relegated to the Minefield.

"Only accurate rifles are interesting" -- Townsend Whelen

I agree with Mr. Whelen. That is why even though my Mini-30 was dead on 1st shot (took my first Javalina at 100 yards on the run with it when the Mini was stock) the follow up shots were awful. A trip to Accuracy Systems solved that problem years ago and I have a 1 MOA rifle that is as rugged as the factory version, but accurate as well. The problem with the stock barrel is that when it heats up it moves around A LOT.

So, why not have the best of both worlds and get your Ranch Rifle to do what it is capable of and put a decent barrel on it. Why Ruger hasn't done this is beyond me as the strut thing is just a crutch IMHO.

If you're OK with the groups that come from your stock gun, more power to you, but as others have said when an AR for a little more $$ is so much more accurate, you have to ask what the Mini-14 is for. Why didn't Ruger "fix" the Mini instead of introducing the SR556? Don't ask me, but my stock SR556 is 1 MOA (with reloads) and I don't own a Mini-14.
Was this mini 30 a pre-2005 (580-prefix) model, by any chance?
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I shot the M-14, Mini 14, M-16, M-4 in that order. I own one of each except for an M-16. I've owned the Colt Accurized Rifle (CAR) in 5.56mm and that would go under .5" at 100 yards for 5 shots most of the time.

The shortened version of the Colt Accurized Rife in any AR type is either as accurate or less accurate than a CAR. I have found every other AR 15 less accurate. Colts, Bushmasters, Armalites, Eagle Arms, Olympic Arms, etc.

I have found that the two Mini 14s I've owned (first one in 1976 and last one in 2014) shoot just as well as any M-4 to say the least.

Which one do I prefer? The choice is NOT because of "accuracy" (they are equal in accuracy) but because of familiarity and history and to me that spells RUGER MINI 14 !


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I'm with you. I know the beast I bought... and I am happy with it! I am not concerned if it can do 1/2MOA. Half the fun of the action is how it shoots. Besides, what I generally hit what I point at with the Mini. Others do seem to want sniper Minis... which usually leads them to disappointment.
Just picked up a Mini 14, always wanted one. The most common complaint I read about was the lack of accuracy. I looked forward to taking it to the range and judging the accuracy for myself. After about 20 rounds, the sights were set to my liking. At 50 yards I was very happy with my 2 1/2 inch groups. At 100 yards they did expand to about 4 1/2 to 5 inches. To me, this is very satisfactory for this type of rifle. I have absolutely no complaints. I expected much worse results, based on all the negative information I saw. I had a flyer or 2, but that was the shooter, NOT the gun. Fired 120 rounds with no malfunctions at all.
This was a perfect choice for my kind of shooting. I'm very happy with my Mini 14!
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I bought a stainless steel Mini-14 around 1982, and sold it 2 months later.
I still have about 200 rds of .223 ammo that I bought for it.

It drove me nuts that I couldn't keep 7 out of 10 shots on a paper plate at 100 yards.
If you are fine with that kind of accuracy, more power to you. But I don't have a ranch and I could not find anything I could use it for with that accuracy (other than having rabbits get a good laugh at my expense), so I dumped it quick.

Just was not my cup of tea, even though it was a very cool looking and fun to shoot rifle.
I have a Ruger rimfire pistol with an AMT stainless bull barrel that is still more accurate at 100 yards than the Mini 14 was, both of them scoped.
I too once had a stainless Ranch Rifle that I could not get to group well, about what you are reporting. After about 6 months of tinkering with it I gave up and sold it to buy an EA J-15 (cousin to the AR-15, lower made by Essential Arms). It's not a sniper rifle by any means, but it does hold a tighter group at 100 yards. (Neither rifle scoped) It could be that the sights match my eyes better, or it could be the trigger, but either way, I'm more confident shooting the black rifle. But at heart, I'm a lever gun guy anyway. If I get a lever gun that won't shoot at least a 4" group at 100, it usually goes bye-bye too.

In the end, they're all fun guns to shoot and tinker with. It's never stopped me from loving my Rugers, and 20 something years later, I wish I had that Ranch Rifle back.
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It's the internet. People like to complain.

They have been and continue to be acceptably accurate but not target rifles.

Just like people spouting about AK's that never jam, and AR's that require armorer support to keep running...

...people like to perpetuate what they hear.
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Was this mini 30 a pre-2005 (580-prefix) model, by any chance?
Yes, my Mini 30 dates from the early 1990's.
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I have a GB Mini-14, and a new Mini-30. The GB had the usual problem of slinging rounds all over the place after the barrel got hot, so I put on a stabilizer rod, and that took care of that issue. Neither are tack driver's, but they deliver enough accurate fire to handle my need's.
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Mine too. I very seldom read the articles about mini 14 accuracy because they really have never pertained to my mini. Love mine.
I don't want to be misinterpreted here but there was a statement that a shooter can't keep 7 out of 10 shots on a paper plate at 100yds with his mini. There is really something wrong there, really wrong. Mine will do at least that with a tennis ball any and every day,,,all day.
I guess if that were me, and I knew I was a better shooter than that (i.e., I had other rifles I could shoot a lot better than 7 of 10), I'd have another good shooter try it. If he couldn't shoot straight with it, that's when I'd say there must be something wrong with the gun. The point, though, is something wrong with that particular gun, not Mini-14's in general. At that point, I'd call Ruger, and tell them to fix my gun.

To me, though, something's wrong with that story. Most likely just poor marksmanship.
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I have a Mini Tactical that shoots more than good enough for me. I quit stating the groups I've achieved with it because it makes the haters heads spin.
Plus I love watching the Garand action work.
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I think the Mini 14 as stated was designed not to be a target rifle so those that feel so then you had better bought the version of Mini 14 that can shoot tighter groups. Mine Mini 14 is a 188 series of gun I am still trying to find the scope that I want! Currently have a older Redfield 2-7x32 Widefield on the way thats going to get mounted on it. I might have to put a Accu Strut on it but no matter it will do just fine for my needs. AR's they are very nice and yes more accurate but don't think they will digest ammo as good as a Mini 14 does mine will eat the brass cased stuff and all of the steel cased stuff I have used as well its not fussy I can shoot .223 or 5.56 with no problems at all!
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I've never had anything bad to say about my Mini. Always goes bang, never lets me down. I did not buy it thinking it was going to be a tack driver. I got it because it is a darn fun rifle! Even with my old, worn out eyes, I can still hit a paper plate at 100 yds all day long. For me, that is just plain old fun.
Bingo! Nothing wrong with just having fun with your rifle.
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I just got a mini 14 love it right out of the box shoots great. It has a chance to become my favorit
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I trust my life to my mini14 should things get hairy...I would not want to be in a fire fight, ever, but if it happened I feel that the mini is capable.
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