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This is a discussion on Mini 14 Accuracy Rant within the Ruger Semi-Auto forums, part of the Rifle & Shotgun Forum category; Originally Posted by Joewisc Not accurate, check. Can't shoot steel, check. Can't shoot .556, check. Three strikes and you're out. ....Mine is as accurate as ...


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Old September 14th, 2014, 12:23 PM   #31
 
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Not accurate, check. Can't shoot steel, check. Can't shoot .556, check. Three strikes and you're out.


....Mine is as accurate as a Mini needs to be ,check.....shoots steel (although who uses that crap anyways),check....cycles .556 ,check....BAM its a home run,...check....check.

Having owned several Minis and Ranch rifles in my opinion and experience they are fantastic little carbines that more than excel at the purpose that they were intended and designed for.... my current 188 series is around the 2" MOA mark for the first five rounds MORE than adequate for hunting.The only mods i have done to it presently are a hogue stock and a soon to be fitted accustrut.If i want to punch tiny .223 groups i will pick up my Browning X-bolt.oooppss i forgot ....CHECK!!.

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Old September 14th, 2014, 01:15 PM   #32
 
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Mine will reliably hit clay birds on bank to 300 yards.
So does my old 181. Has a LOT to do with the shooter and reloads.
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My mini 30 and mini 14 will hold 2 inches at 50 yards with iron sights that is fine for me.
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I'm not sure Joe is going to come back and address this interesting post. My mini-14 can certainly shoot steel case ammo (although I rarely run that garbage in any of my guns), and is fed a steady diet of 556. As for accuracy, that's subjective. But the mini 14 does well for me for its intended purposes.

I don't think Joe is familiar with the Mini 14.
Yea my Mini-14 shoots steel too. I only shoot it plinking where it's difficult/impossible to recover brass. I mostly shoot reloads.
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I've read that in one of the gun rags years ago, but it never showed in either of my M77s 280Rem & 338Win. 10/22 is really accurate too.
All of mine were made in the 80s. When did they start using heavy triggers? Haven't measured them but mine feel fine.
Late 80s through the 90s on the triggers. If your 77s are tang safety they generally have the ruger factory made barrels. The tang Rugers have a better reputation for accuracy as do the hawkeyes.

The 80s 10/22s did seem to be more accurate as well. I wonder if it is because of the components they used to use. My most accurate 10/22 is a 1990s international stocked blued model which by virtue of the full length stock should not be.
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Joewisc probably has an AR something or other but no experience with the mini...may be just repeating something he heard. Regarding steel cases; I wouldn't feed a steady diet to my rifles because I like them too much to abuse them in such a fashion but it darn sure will shoot it. Come on back Joe, we ain't hatin', we're just sayin'!
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Why are folks on gun forums so obsessed over how accurate, or not, the Mini- 14's are? It's really starting to frustrate me. I mean, think about it- the Mini-14 is really a fascinating gun. Ruger takes the legendary Garand action, scales it down a bit, and puts in in a little carbine that's designed to look a lot like an M-14.

They design it to be a "Ranch Rifle." A rugged carbine you can throw in the back of your truck so it's there when you need it. Whether it's a coyote, some feral hogs, a pack of wild dogs, rodents... whatever pest out there that needs to be dispatched, the Mini-14 can be depended on to do the job, and do it well. It is plenty accurate for its intended purpose.

So, why the heck to people insist on bench resting it and keep getting upset when it doesn't shoot dime sized groups in paper at 100 yards!? While it would be nice if they would all do that, that's not what it was designed for. There are plenty of other guns out there that are much better suited for shooting groups than a Mini-14 is.

If I took someone out to eat at an expensive steak house, and they ordered salad for dinner, I wouldn't be very sympathetic to them it they weren't completely satisfied with their meal. While all the food should be good at a good restaurant, salads aren't the reason people go to steakhouses.

I have a couple of theories about this, but I'd like to hear what others say.
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Folks around San Antone probably wouldn't be able to agree with that last part. Since he became famous, he hasn't talked to common folk much either.
I might should have said, "Was a good guy." I haven't talked to him in years, but see him around town here occasionally. Drives a standard old white pick-up that looks like all the other oil field equipment in the area.

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I put a Trijicon Accupoint Red 3-9X atop mine using the rail mount supplied by Ruger instead of the integral rings. Sighting in was just a click or two sideways only. The rail mount allows the scope to be mounted LOWER than the integral scope rings. Also, the rail mount is light compared to those massive rings Ruger supplies that are too heavy and too high for the compact Mini 14 Ranch Rifle.

No jams at all and compared to one of my three M4s (2 Colt LEs and 1 old Windham Bushmaster) I prefer the Mini 14.

Fact is when the M16 was made in the Vietnam era the cost of putting that plastic gun together was very low in mass production which is ideal for arming an army. But to me the accuracy of a 16" M4 barrel with a flash suppressor is the same. The M 16 is accurate but not that accurate in the M4 configuration compared to the Mini 14.

Mine shoots both .223 and 5.56mm. I never use cheap ammunition which leaves out steel case Wolf stuff.

I bought 4 extra 30 round magazines (Ruger Brand) and feel better with the Mini 14 in a firefight than an M4 type semi auto.
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I bought a Mini 14 the first year they came out. It was an OK gun for what it cost. Had several more over the years. I expect to get 4 inch groups at 100 yards with standard ammo which is OK for self defense to 150 yards or so. With a trigger job and handloads I expect 2 inch groups or so at 100 yards. I only had one dud Mini 14. Couldnt get better than 8 inch groups at 100 yards no matter what I did. Got rid of that one fast. So, I guess there are some bad ones out there, but that is true for any brand.

I have also had various M77 rifles. All were quite accurate after a trigger job. I would buy another one with no worries.

All of my 10/22 rifles were quite accurate. I only have one right now. With a trigger job and the 24x power scope I use for range testing, it can get 1 inch groups at 50 yards with the right ammo.
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I blame the internet. A lot of shooters, especially those new to guns in general seem to fixate on mis-conceived ideas of accuracy. They seem to think that any rifle that cannot make single hole 3-shot groups at 100yds is useless and flawed. For many rifles, I could care less where the second or third shots end up, since all I care about is that first shot going where I want.

My tactical mini 14 with a red dot scope will do minute-of-fist at 100yds from a standing offhand position. A fist being about the size of a heart, that makes it more than sufficiently accurate, in my hands, for my HD/SHTF rifle. My mini ranch rifle, with a 3-9x40mm scope and a bi-pod or shooting sticks will reliably hit every groundhog or coyote I've met at up to 200yds, which again is all I need it to do (beyond 200yds my eyes need more than 9x power for me to be effective, and the 200+yd shooting gets done by bolt action .223 rifles with 16x or 24x magnification scopes instead of the mini's).

Even when I'm bench shooting at the range, I am not bench rest shooting as that does not appeal to me, so I have no idea how any of my rifles shoot from a bench rest. I use a tri-pod (vanguard) front rest at the range, but that's it.
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Like was already mentioned, "I do love my Mini-14".
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MOF; minute of fist...that's a new one for me and well said. Oh, did I mention I love my mini 14?
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