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Old January 4th, 2014, 09:34 AM   #1
 
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22/45 volquartsen extractor

Hi all,

My first post here so go easy on me...

I purchased this gun in 2009 and have about 7000-10000 rounds through it.

My trusty 22/45 started stovepiping a few weeks ago, so I ordered the VQ exact edge extractor. When I removed the bolt and inspected, the extractor was missing completely. So I installed the VQ extractor, but fit is a problem. it pushes the extractor plunger back into the firing pin stop hole just a tiny bit like 1/64th of an inch, preventing reassembly of the firing pin stop. So should I just grind the plunger a bit?

Also... Upon disassembly I noted that the rebound spring is broken and needs replacement.

With both of these problems should I send it back to Ruger and have them fix it?

I also have a VQ Mark II hammer bushing. that I want to install to disable the magazine disconnect which I don't like. I will not install this till the other two problems are fixed.

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Old January 4th, 2014, 12:18 PM   #2
 
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Did you push the firing pin stop pin into the bolt before attempting to move the extractor plunger rearward? If you didn't then you must seat it over to the left at least 1/3 of the way to allow for enough clearance of the extractor plunger before installing the hook. Otherwise the plunger will not move rearward very far to prevent recoil from releasing the hook and allowing it to be expelled from the pistol.

You do not need to send back your pistol for a rebound spring. You can get a new one from shop Ruger and install it yourself. These springs break more often than folks think. A lot of times when there is a light strike issue the spring is broken and preventing the pin from traveling fully forward.

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Welcome from Australia mate.
Glad to have you on board, nice folk here and lots of good info.
As above, once again Bullseye is right on the money.....
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Hi, Bullseye,
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Did you push the firing pin stop pin into the bolt before attempting to move the extractor plunger rearward?
Yes I did it both ways. With the stop pin installed first, the extractor will not click in because of interference with the stop pin. When I install the extractor first, the stop pin will not go in because of interference with the plunger. Maybe I should order the ruger extractor to ensure that it's not problem with the VQ extractor.

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No need, the VQ extractors are the same dimensions. What you may have going on is the extractor plunger pin has rotated. There is a flat notch cut in the pin and the flat portion faces inwards. The rounded side points outwards. They look like this-



The top pictured one should be in your pistol. The bottom one is from a very early Standard (49-53 version). The extractor plunger spring uses the longer one as a guide rod. Check to ensure your spring is orientated on the plunger properly too, that could cause improper movement.

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Bullseye thanks for your help.

Hmm, I still don't understand so I took some picture

#1 shows the problem with the plunger sticking into the firing pin stop hole. I think I should grind off the plunger. As it seems like the ramp of the extractor is too steep for a full engagement with the plunger.



Next picture is just an exploded view of how the parts fit.

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Bullseye thanks for your help.

Hmm, I still don't understand so I took some picture

#1 shows the problem with the plunger sticking into the firing pin stop hole. I think I should grind off the plunger. As it seems like the ramp of the extractor is too steep for a full engagement with the plunger.



Next picture is just an exploded view of how the parts fit.

could you take a CLOSE UP of the extractor installed (macro) looks like plunger notch is facing out , not in , maybe its my eyes but it looks like it.
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When I look at your picture of the installed extractor hook I see the flat side of the plunger facing outward. This is the reason why your plunger is sticking out into the crosspin hole. When you show the two parts and how they should be positioned you have the flat facing toward the notch in the extractor claw. You do not need to grind anything. If you flip that plunger around, it will not stick out into the firing pin crosspin hole. That was what I was attempting to describe in my first posting.



I added this picture just to show how the extractor plunger should appear near the end of the bolt. Notice the rounded side of the plunger is facing outward, as opposed to the picture you posted earlier.

If you did grind that plunger then you may create a situation whereby it could retract far enough under the forces of recoil to eject the new claw hook, or basically the same issue you had before replacing the claw.

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Welcome to the forum ssscottg. As you see, there are a lot of good people here that have a lot of corporate memory.
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Welcome to the forum from balmy North Dakota. Bullseye knows what he's talking about
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looks like plunger notch is facing out , not in , maybe its my eyes but it looks like it.
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That is the original extractor plunger that came with your pistol, correct?


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Yep this is the first time I have disassembled beyond field strip. So the plunger is original. Everything is original.

This is a close up of the assembled plunger and extractor. It's clear that the round side is facing out.



Maybe I should lower the ramp on the extractor so that I can get full overlap between the notch on the plunger and the extractor ramp.
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grab the extratcor with finger and move it towards the outside, as you press down on it.
It should make a "clik" when it seats properly.

extractor should also spring back & forth(open/closed position) while its installed correctly.
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time 4:09 in this video "clik" is what im referrring to, he is pushing it in with his left thumb

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