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This is a discussion on Rail for a Red Dot on a Mark II within the Ruger Rimfires forums, part of the Pistol & Revolver Forum category; Originally Posted by kacher1 First of all the OP asked about a no drill/tap rail. The link you provided is for a Ruger that is ...


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Old April 13th, 2013, 12:08 PM   #16
 
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First of all the OP asked about a no drill/tap rail. The link you provided is for a Ruger that is already drilled for a scope rail. Unfortunately, if you want a no drill/tap rail and a tube type red dot you are stuck with the higher rail.

Also, that is not a Picatinny rail in the pic above. It is Jack Weigand's new rail that either accepts weaver or picatinny rings.

My preference is also a low mount rail. I use an ultradot on my drilled and tapped Ruger. The millett is fine on the Weigand no gunsmith rail and provides an inexpensive, fully functional, solution to someone that does not want to drill/tap their gun and wants to use a tube type red dot. Of course there is the Fast fire style, reflex mounts for those who prefer that type of red dot and want to remove the rear sight.
It seems the price difference is not that great: Weigand's +S&H = $45, Ruger's d&t&low-profile rail & includes return shipping = $65. So for whatever red dot is chosen, the difference is $20 plus shipping costs to Ruger. Not so much.

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I had this B-Square mounted on a MKII that I used with a Action Arms Mark V scope. The scope is ancient but the mount will work with any of the new red dots or othe scopes.

The mount easily slides over the upper receiver and the rear sight remains in place. I found once I had the scope sighted in, I could take it off shoot w/iron sights, replace the B-Square and it was still on.

Amazon.com: B-Square Ruger MK 1, MK II Universal Slide Mount, Matte Black Finish: Sports & Outdoors
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It seems the price difference is not that great: Weigand's +S&H = $45, Ruger's d&t&low-profile rail & includes return shipping = $65. So for whatever red dot is chosen, the difference is $20 plus shipping costs to Ruger. Not so much.

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Yep, Ruger's charge to drill/tap; shipping both ways, plus cost of rail. You will need an aftermarket rail (like the other Weigand shown in the link) cause a factory rail and rings will double your cost--they are expensive.
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Heres a mount from AimTech that works well also...

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So my new MKIII 22/45 that came with the rail, I can attach the rail then my red dot and get it zeroed and shoot away?
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So my new MKIII 22/45 that came with the rail, I can attach the rail then my red dot and get it zeroed and shoot away?
Thats the idea. Use some acetone(nail polish remover) to clean the screws for the rail, also the threaded holes in the receiver where the screws go, then apply some blue LocTite to the screw threads. Tighten them down, Let sit 24 hours, and your in business.
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Dot size - recommendations 3 vs 5?

A last question for you folks experienced with red dots - 3 vs 5 MOA? I'm looking at a Millet...
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A last question for you folks experienced with red dots - 3 vs 5 MOA? I'm looking at a Millet...
The idea with the 5 MOA is fast target acquisition, especially against a busy background. At one time, this was the most common dot size or red dots and is still popular in action shooting sports.

For target work, though, a 3 MOA allows for a more precise hold. Even a 4 MOA dot will help to shrink group size, compared to a 5 MOA. My favorite size for target work AND general plinking or hunting is a 3 MOA. In a good red dot, such as a Bushnell TRS-25, a 3 MOA is still very easy to see when adjusted, correctly for illumination, even out in the woods or field. For paper punching or just all around plinking, I much prefer a 3 MOA.
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The idea with the 5 MOA is fast target acquisition, especially against a busy background. At one time, this was the most common dot size or red dots and is still popular in action shooting sports.

For target work, though, a 3 MOA allows for a more precise hold. Even a 4 MOA dot will help to shrink group size, compared to a 5 MOA. My favorite size for target work AND general plinking or hunting is a 3 MOA. In a good red dot, such as a Bushnell TRS-25, a 3 MOA is still very easy to see when adjusted, correctly for illumination, even out in the woods or field. For paper punching or just all around plinking, I much prefer a 3 MOA.
Thank you. Now, though, you've put another question on the table: would you recommend the Bushnell over the Millet I was looking at? The Millet comes in silver - matching the SS Ruger, and is $20 less than the Bushnell even with a rebate that would come with the Bushnell. What do you think?
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I have not used the Millet, so it wouldn't be right for me to comment on that one.

As for the Bushnell, the big advantage is its small, compact size and the fact that it needs no rings also helps to keep the size and weight, down. It's a great choice when you are trying to minimize change to the balance and handling of the gun when adding a red dot.
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