Ruger Mark III with Stingers and Hyper VelocityThis is a discussion on Ruger Mark III with Stingers and Hyper Velocity within the Ruger Rimfires forums, part of the Pistol & Revolver Forum category; Thanks for this.
I'm a little concerned that the guy that sold me my Mark III handed me a box of Stingers when I asked ...  |
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September 13th, 2012, 05:49 AM
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Thanks for this.
I'm a little concerned that the guy that sold me my Mark III handed me a box of Stingers when I asked what ammo was recommended for these pistols. This is a shop that promotes themselves as being the #1 Ruger dealer in the USA.
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September 13th, 2012, 05:53 AM
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#17 | | Zombie Hunter
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The RUGERŪ MARK II pistol is chambered only for the .22 caliber Long
Rifle cartridge, standard velocity or high velocity, manufactured to U.S. Industry
Standards. Do not attempt to load .22 Long, .22 Short, or any other type .22
caliber cartridge into the magazine or in the chamber of the pistol. Use of .22
shot shells is not recommended. See MALFUNCTION WARNING, p. 18.
This is what I remember. It's comes across as implying that you should not use hyper velocity simply by saying only standard and high velocity are aproved. This is from the manual for MkIIs made from 1982 to 2005. Ok, no more Stingers for the old gal.
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September 13th, 2012, 08:34 AM
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The owners manual is vague about the recommendation not to use Hyper-V ammo. I think it should be rewritten to include the warning not to use H-V ammo. The FAQ on Rugers websight states no H-V ammo.
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September 13th, 2012, 04:38 PM
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I have been researching it and the velocity doesn't mean a hill of beans. With the longer brass of the Hyper Velocity rounds though you can and will over time tear up the rifling. I'm just going to sell off all my HV ammo tonight and buy High Velocity standard length.
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September 13th, 2012, 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by intercooler I'm just going to sell off all my HV ammo tonight and buy High Velocity standard length. | WAIT! That extra Hyper-V ammo is a great reason to buy a .22 revolver... 
SP101-22, LCR 22, Single Ten, Single Six, S&W 617, S&W 317
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September 14th, 2012, 08:47 AM
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So I was talking to my buddy the other night while we were troubleshooting my 22/45, he brought his 22/45 along with to compare. He was telling me about how it was his first gun he ever owned, he has had it since he was a teenager. Anywho, we were talking about dirty ammo and cleaning and stuff, and he mentioned that all he shoots is CCI Stingers. He has had this pistol for about 6+ years and has put nothing but Stingers through it, and his gun still runs like a champ. Over 6 years of putting Stingers through his gun... I know a lot of people are picky and finicky and afraid to mess up their barrels or other parts, but it looks like his barrel is doing just fine. I'm not advocating anyone to use them, but just saying he does, and I also do too. To each their own.
Last edited by SonsOfLiberty86; September 14th, 2012 at 08:50 AM.
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September 14th, 2012, 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by SonsOfLiberty86 So I was talking to my buddy the other night while we were troubleshooting my 22/45, he brought his 22/45 along with to compare. He was telling me about how it was his first gun he ever owned, he has had it since he was a teenager. Anywho, we were talking about dirty ammo and cleaning and stuff, and he mentioned that all he shoots is CCI Stingers. He has had this pistol for about 6+ years and has put nothing but Stingers through it, and his gun still runs like a champ. Over 6 years of putting Stingers through his gun... I know a lot of people are picky and finicky and afraid to mess up their barrels or other parts, but it looks like his barrel is doing just fine. I'm not advocating anyone to use them, but just saying he does, and I also do too. To each their own. | I hear you but you can't blame Ruger if you have a failure in your guns as this is what Ruger says about Stingers in MK's. Don't forget the casing on a Stinger is 1/10" longer than standard 22LR's 1/10" is alot.
This e-mail is in response to your question or comment of 04/26/2012
Request No: 137753
Comment / question:
The use of CCI stingers in SR22's and MKIII target pistols. Are they safe to use in these guns and is the use of these recommended by Ruger for ocassional use
Thank you
Great products. The craftmanship on my SR1911 is first class. Beats my kimber.
Response:
You can use the CCI Stingers in your SR22 pistol.
Do Not use CCI Stingers in your Mark III pistol. The MKIII pistol is chambered only for the .22 caliber Long Rifle cartridge, standard velocity or high velocity, manufactured to U.S. Industry Standards. CCI Stingers are hyper-velocity, over 1300 fps.
If you need further information, please visit our website at www.ruger.com or contact us at:
Revolvers, shotguns, rifles, 10/22 Charger Pistol: (603) 865-2442
Pistols: (928) 778-6555
Serial Number History Information: (603) 865-2424
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September 14th, 2012, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by SonsOfLiberty86 So I was talking to my buddy the other night while we were troubleshooting my 22/45, he brought his 22/45 along with to compare. He was telling me about how it was his first gun he ever owned, he has had it since he was a teenager. Anywho, we were talking about dirty ammo and cleaning and stuff, and he mentioned that all he shoots is CCI Stingers. He has had this pistol for about 6+ years and has put nothing but Stingers through it, and his gun still runs like a champ. Over 6 years of putting Stingers through his gun... I know a lot of people are picky and finicky and afraid to mess up their barrels or other parts, but it looks like his barrel is doing just fine. I'm not advocating anyone to use them, but just saying he does, and I also do too. To each their own. | I also have shot quite a few Stingers, and Remington YellowJackets out of my Mark II. Did I do any damage? I dont know. I really doubt it, but I dont plan on shooting them anymore. They never were terribly accurate, I dont see any situation where a standard high velocity round wont do the job. Maybe long range small varmit hunting, but still a High Velocity round will work. If you want them for SD, then thats fine, and Im sure the extra power is a good thing, but for anything else, I would just find a good, high quality, name brand High-v round and stick with that.
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September 14th, 2012, 11:20 AM
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What I found is they will tear out the rifling. Makes sense with the extra long brass.
BTW I have a ton of Hyper Velocity ammo for sale. I'm trying to find out if we can list ammo here for sale. PM me if interested though.
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September 14th, 2012, 03:06 PM
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Since you guys are the experts here and I'm a noob, I think I'll take your guys word for it. After I am done with my last box or two of Stingers, I'll switch to something else. Thanks for the detailed info... it's nice to know other people out there are looking out for each other.
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September 14th, 2012, 03:17 PM
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No expert here. I just read the info and passed it along but someone with measuring tools could confirm.
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September 14th, 2012, 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by SonsOfLiberty86 Since you guys are the experts here and I'm a noob, I think I'll take your guys word for it. After I am done with my last box or two of Stingers, I'll switch to something else. Thanks for the detailed info... it's nice to know other people out there are looking out for each other. | SonsOfLiberty86 that's what this forum is all about helping one another. Look how much Bullseye posts. That kind of info would cost alot of $ anywere else if you could find it. He's a gunsmith and passing on his knowledge for free. You don't find that very often.
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September 17th, 2012, 05:35 AM
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In my owners manual it says 22LR only in standard velocity or High Velocity, & NO shot shells, 22long, 22 short, or any other type 22 caliber cartridge.
Last edited by westgl; September 17th, 2012 at 05:38 AM.
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September 22nd, 2012, 04:31 PM
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I like what I've learned here so far. You are all awesome. I will be in the market soon for Mark III and I am trying to read as much as I can.
I am not a newbie to handguns (been using 1911s, Beretta, etc) but a definite newbie when it comes to rimfire.
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September 22nd, 2012, 07:33 PM
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DArBad
I've got three MKIII's love them. Great shooters. Don't be put off by the break down horror stories. Once you've done it a couple of times no biggie. plenlty of vids out there and there 's always right here. We have one of the best MK experets right here Bullseye. Who's always looking to help out anyone. He's got links that will having you take a MK down to bare bones if you want.
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