EYAKER

So I'm trying to be the best marksman I can. I think I have the sights dialed in at rest, but consistently shoot a little low and left unsupported. Is this just my trigger control pulling the gun left and low? It seems like it might be.

Thoughts? Thanks.

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JK55

Hey EYAKER!
First let me say that's some very nice shooting in spite of the low and left issue.

I can tell you my experience of low & left, maybe it can help you. I'm a right handed shooter and in the past when shooting from a supported stance I was able to shoot the bullseye out of the target from my normal shooting points of 25', 50' and 25 yds.

When shooting from an unsupported stance I would shoot low & left. My problem was trigger control, especially when shooting D/A's. As I squeezed the trigger back my wrist seemed to move slightly leftward not much but enough to move my POI to about 7 o'clock off the red of the bullseye and into in the black.

I'm doing better now only because I really have to focus on my trigger mechanics. Hope this helps...

shootist

Yes trigger pull and grip take lots of practice, I have the same problem

Spike12

I would argue that it **may** be trigger control but your groups are too tight to make me believe it's that.

I'd be looking to adjust the sites, your grouping is just too good and consistent to suggest otherwise.

CARSINC

If your pistol is zeroed from a bench rest, and your grouping is based on right handed shooting, then you are flinching. Your brain is telling your body to brace for the recoil. A lot of dry fire practice can help correct this. Also, have a buddy load a snap cap randomly in a magazine so that you don't know when it going to be chambered. Have him watch what you do. There's a good chance you are flinching and jerking the pistol.

BlkHawk73

EYAKER

Thanks for the advice and suggestions!

Tom in Arizona

The above are correct and something else to consider to aid with that is a trigger job or replacement with one that has adjustments for pre and after travel as well as weight. When you are shooting from a rest you are compensating for the deficiencies in the weapon and your control of it.

mhuxtable

Yep my low and left was from anticipation and flinching in preparation for recoil. A guy who works at my local gun shop was on Top Shot and he gave me the best advice that has worked.

Aim, find your sights, then slowly pull the trigger with no anticipation or expectation of when the gun will go off. Just let it fire. You'll hit the target every time. Do that a few thousand rounds (for your new grip) and it becomes muscle memory. I did this my second time shooting and i was blowing out the middle of the target.

maverick06

If you are a right handed shooter (two hand hold and especially a one hand hold) consider the following:
1.Breaking your wrist down (left)
2. Jerking
3. Squeezing your finger tips while applying the trigger
4. Too much or too little trigger finger.

A number of years ago in a Combat pistol training course my coach found me guilty of all four of the above. I was guilty. He gave me a card and told me to memorize it. (It is a two side card-right hand and left hand shooter)with ten or more items on the card to sort out. It works very well! I cleaned up my shooting. I carry the card with me to every range session and every match.

The card from Caswell Equipment Co Inc., 1221 Marshall, Minneapolis MN 56413 612 379 200.
The Card is entitled "Hand Gun Target Analysis Guide".

I don't know Caswell Equipment exists today. If they don't exist I can scan it and send you a copy-which is a bit "ragged and has a lot of age on it.
Maverick

RockDoctor

This!!! Print a 3x5 copy or smaller, laminate and keep in your shooting bag for referral.

maverick06

BlkHawk73,
Wow!
I forgot about the Army Marksmanship Circle of Analysis! As I remember it had left and right information for both right and left hand shooters. I don't recall if pertained to two hands hold. Seldom, if every , .did we shoot one handed. Do you know its application?
I hate "Golden Age". I cannot find anything golden about losing my memory!

Maverick

CARSINC

Send me a PM and I will email you a pdf of the Army Marksmanship Guide.

rimshaker

Perfect your grip, keep the thumbs off the frame/slide, and squeeze the trigger from the middle joint (not the knuckle).

jlh820

I love that chart and it's extremely accurate as far as identifying a problem.

To the OP. Try mixing in some snapcaps randomly and see if your barrel is dipping. I'm betting it is. NICE group, though.