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Old July 15th, 2012, 07:07 PM   #16
 
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For those of you who know CNC machining and have had the lever out of the gun, how difficult does it look to machine? Any chance of a billet 7075 aluminum aftermarket part?
You don't want to do that. You'll get galling and deformation. What needs to be done is some sort of bumper system for where the slide meets the take down lever.
I have one myself, I am going to be working on figuring out an working fix to protect the plastic so I don't have the same problem with mine.



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Old July 15th, 2012, 08:34 PM   #17
 
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I was just visiting rimfire central and someone over there has been using an rubber o ring that fits over the guide rod ond recil spring on his P22 as they have slide problems and he says it helped fix his problem. Now some of the people over there are going to try this on their SR22's It acts like a recoil buffer. who knows it's a cheap try and easy to do. Got nothing to lose. I've got two SR22's with about 2500 rds thru them with no wear on the take down levers or the slides all though I did lightly sand the back edges of my slide stops. The barrel has been rock solid from day one. It's a shame these are great little guns.I hope Ruger can figure this out. Just went back to rimfire central there are five pages dealing with using o rings as buffers on the SR22's. Giving sizes etc. All available at Lowes or Home Depot.

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My test fire date was 2/6/12
Now that was some useful information. Thanks TxRuger65.

If everyone else who HAS experienced this problem would post some sort of date of manufacture info, it might be helpful in determining if there is a point in time when the pistols produced had NO problems of this type.

My SR22 is fairly new and the round count so far (135) is too low to mean anything but my info is: test fire date - 07 June 12 and serial # is 360-711xx (last two digits x'ed)

I can make up a little spreadsheet and see what the info tells us.

In fact, even if you HAVE NOT had a problem with the take down lever - post your data if you have a good round count. That would be interesting to add as well.
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Old July 16th, 2012, 04:28 AM   #19
 
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My sr22 has around a thousand rds through with no sign of any problems as of now.
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I was just visiting rimfire central and someone over there has been using an rubber o ring that fits over the guide rod ond recil spring on his P22 as they have slide problems and he says it helped fix his problem. Now some of the people over there are going to try this on their SR22's It acts like a recoil buffer. How knows it's a cheap try and easy to do. Got nothing to lose. I've got two SR22's with about 2500 rds thru them with no wear on the take down levers or the slides all though I did lightly sand the back edges of my slide stops. The barrel has been rock solid from day one. It's a shame these are great little guns.I hope Ruger can figure this out. Just went back to rimfire central there are five pages dealing with using o rings as buffers on the SR22's. Giving sizes etc. All available at Lowes or Home Depot.
People over at RC have been working on the issue and have come up with a possible solution.

Interestingly enough, posts there, as early as 1/22/2012, provided the 30 second solution to the galling of the slide by the slide stop.
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I was just visiting rimfire central and someone over there has been using an rubber o ring that fits over the guide rod ond recil spring on his P22 as they have slide problems and he says it helped fix his problem. Now some of the people over there are going to try this on their SR22's It acts like a recoil buffer. who knows it's a cheap try and easy to do. Got nothing to lose. I've got two SR22's with about 2500 rds thru them with no wear on the take down levers or the slides all though I did lightly sand the back edges of my slide stops. The barrel has been rock solid from day one. It's a shame these are great little guns.I hope Ruger can figure this out. Just went back to rimfire central there are five pages dealing with using o rings as buffers on the SR22's. Giving sizes etc. All available at Lowes or Home Depot.
Just went to Harbor freights web site they have sets of nitrile rubber o riings 225 pieces $6.99 item # 67677 and another set of 382 item #67554 for $5.99
all sizes. I've got one of their stores about 10 mins away. Going to give it a try on one of my SR22's
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My test fire date was May 25, 2012 (360-603xx), and it failed on Jun 17th on my 905th rd.

Mine had only CCI Mini-Mag 40 gr, Blazer bulk 40gr and winchester M22 40 gr (total 905 rds). Highest muzzle vel was 1255 fps,

I thought all the failures were due to troops shooting Hyper-vel ammo, but not so. Mine failed with high vel ammo only.

The sad part was the replaced part looked exactly like the original.

Either Ruger doesn't believe it's a serious enough or wide spread enough problem to produce a better lever or . . .
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My test fire date was May 25, 2012 (360-603xx), and it failed on Jun 17th on my 905th rd.

Mine had only CCI Mini-Mag 40 gr, Blazer bulk 40gr and winchester M22 40 gr (total 905 rds). Highest muzzle vel was 1255 fps,

I thought all the failures were due to troops shooting Hyper-vel ammo, but not so. Mine failed with high vel ammo only.

The sad part was the replaced part looked exactly like the original.

Either Ruger doesn't believe it's a serious enough or wide spread enough problem to produce a better lever or . . .
....or as one person related, Ruger had a problem on batch of the parts that were cool incorrectly during the manufacturing process.

I would guess that by just looking at the part, I couldn't tell the difference. I don't have calibrated eyes. Maybe others do.
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I'm having trouble picturing an "O" ring as the answer. It would have to be quite thin or you wouldn't be able get the slide on. I'm thinking a thin nylon washer would be a better answer. If nothing else, it would take the punishment and be replaceable. Now to find one (or bunch) the right size. Easier said than done.

On second thought, even that wouldn't work unless it was fastened to the slide somehow. Otherwise the spring would get fouled in the washer and jamb thngs up. Same with the "O" ring. The spring has to slide inside the ring........can't see it working.

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Just re-posting my test fire date with partial serial #. 02/06/12 and # is 360-237xx. Round count 1200. Failure date 07/14/12. Failed while shooting mini mags, had also shot some blazers that day. Only other that was ever used was some cheap federal and winchesters.

Just got off phone with Ruger, sure wish all customer service calls were this easy. Very friendly and helpful. Asked if the same part would be installed or if there had been an upgrade made, she thought there had been an upgrade but was not 100%. Take that for what it's worth.

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Now that was some useful information. Thanks TxRuger65.

If everyone else who HAS experienced this problem would post some sort of date of manufacture info, it might be helpful in determining if there is a point in time when the pistols produced had NO problems of this type.

My SR22 is fairly new and the round count so far (135) is too low to mean anything but my info is: test fire date - 07 June 12 and serial # is 360-711xx (last two digits x'ed)

I can make up a little spreadsheet and see what the info tells us.

In fact, even if you HAVE NOT had a problem with the take down lever - post your data if you have a good round count. That would be interesting to add as well.
For what it's worth.

Ruger says that their serial numbers may or may not be out of order and sequential. If per chance they were, there could be as many as 57,000 SR22 pistols manufactured since I bought mine (360-138XX serial number.) I bought mine in early January 2012 a week or two after they were released.

No issues and about 1000 rounds fired.
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I'm having trouble picturing an "O" ring as the answer. It would have to be quite thin or you wouldn't be able get the slide on. I'm thinking a thin nylon washer would be a better answer. If nothing else, it would take the punishment and be replaceable. Now to find one (or bunch) the right size. Easier said than done.

On second thought, even that wouldn't work unless it was fastened to the slide somehow. Otherwise the spring would get fouled in the washer and jamb thngs up. Same with the "O" ring. The spring has to slide inside the ring........can't see it working.
Hi Jack go to rimfirecentral there's five pages of posts about this with some good pictures also. Some of the people over there have run a few hundred rounds without problems. It started out being used on the P22's because of a slide problem on that gun. Now some of the SR22 owners have picked up on it. Give it a look
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My two SR22's were both test fired 2/01/12 both have about 2500 rds thru them with no problems. As a matter of fact I took one of them to the range and ran a box of Federal bulk 550 rds and 50 CCI Mimi Mags in one session with no prblems at all expect for 5 fail to fire. Which was ammo problem. serial #'s 360-21xxx serial # are 30 numbers apart.I've never had any problems with either one. Only thing I did was file lightly the back edge of the slide stop. So no wear problems either.
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I just put an o ring over my recoil spring as per the guys over Rim fire central 3/8" od ,1/4" id & 1/16' thick can feel the difference when I pull the slide back. I have @ SR22's so I can test the feel with and without ,without having to break down. With the o ring it's a softer hit when pulled back and a hard hit without. No trouble getting the slide off .Will let you know how it does when fired.
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I'd be interested to know what happens when the rubber falls between the coils of the spring during firing. Doesn't seem like it would last long.....either the spring or the rubber.
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