SR22P jammed on Winchester ammoThis is a discussion on SR22P jammed on Winchester ammo within the Ruger Rimfires forums, part of the Pistol & Revolver Forum category; Took my SR22P to range today for the first time along with a box of Winchester bulk in 333 pack would fire first round out ...  |
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June 29th, 2012, 07:28 PM
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| SR22P jammed on Winchester ammo
Took my SR22P to range today for the first time along with a box of Winchester bulk in 333 pack would fire first round out of clip and jam every time, started to think what a piece of crap pistol I just bought, I emptyed my mags and pulled out my box of Federal ammo 550 bulk pack with brown lable loaded both mags and they shot without a flaw no jams what so ever, kept loading and shooting for 4 hours till there was about 6 or so rounds left rattling around in the box out of the 550, gun shot perfect not a single jam, I really like this little pistol it's a keeper, never though I would ever like a wimpy little 22 but I was wrong this is a real fun gun to shoot.
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June 29th, 2012, 08:22 PM
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Hi shootest
Try a box of CCI stiners in it for a real blast. I checked with Ruger Tec support and they say it's ok to run them in the SR22. I just wouldn't make it a steady diet of them. Load one mag up with bulk and one with Stingers and see see see the difference. I also always run Federal red box Walmart all the time with no poblems at all. Right now a little hard to find around Vegas. I bought my wife an SR22 and liked it so much I bought one for myself.Made the mistake of letting her shoot my MKIII target. That lead to her getting a Stainless MKIII target.
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June 29th, 2012, 08:30 PM
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if i may ask.............on the stingers........which CCI stingers are the ones everyone talks about? i think ive seen a few different ones?
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June 29th, 2012, 08:38 PM
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The only stinger I know are marked CCI Stingers. You have to be careful with them in some guns as the casing is 1/10" longer then standard LR casings you can't use use them in Target barreled MKIII's or 10/22's. CCI mimi mags can be used in any gun as they're standard LR just a little hotter load. They work great in 22 Semi auto's that are pickie on ammo such as the Walther P22's.
Also welcome to the forum Bryman31. I've got two SR22's they're great little guns could shoot them all day. Actually I had mine the range today along with my MKIII target. And for what ever reason I was better with the SR22 was is usally not the case. My wife was kicking my a-- with her MKIII target which she just got.  
Ps you can ask anything someone will usually have an answer. Lot of great people on this forum. Great place to learn.
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June 29th, 2012, 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by shootist Took my SR22P to range today for the first time along with a box of Winchester bulk in 333 pack would fire first round out of clip and jam every time, started to think what a piece of crap pistol I just bought, I emptyed my mags and pulled out my box of Federal ammo 550 bulk pack with brown lable loaded both mags and they shot without a flaw no jams what so ever, kept loading and shooting for 4 hours till there was about 6 or so rounds left rattling around in the box out of the 550, gun shot perfect not a single jam, I really like this little pistol it's a keeper, never though I would ever like a wimpy little 22 but I was wrong this is a real fun gun to shoot.  | Mine gets nothing but Federal bulk pack ammo(525 round box) & it works great!
Several other people have stated this also. I won't try anything else. With a 3.5" barrel the velocity increase is very small using HV ammo. It's just not that big of a difference. This was documented on youtube.
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June 29th, 2012, 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by gmsoapy Hi shootest
Try a box of CCI stiners in it for a real blast. I checked with Ruger Tec support and they say it's ok to run them in the SR22. I just wouldn't make it a steady diet of them. Load one mag up with bulk and one with Stingers and see see see the difference. I also always run Federal red box Walmart all the time with no poblems at all. Right now a little hard to find around Vegas. I bought my wife an SR22 and liked it so much I bought one for myself.Made the mistake of letting her shoot my MKIII target. That lead to her getting a Stainless MKIII target. | Stingers the ones that come in that clear plastic box? I'm guessing the ammo your calling Federal red box is the same stuff I'm calling brown box? haven't seen much at Walmart lately either that's where I got mine about 3 years back good thing I still have 4 more boxes, has anyone tryed the bulk CCI? my brother inlaw tells me that works best in his MKIII target, think I'll find a box of that and try it.
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June 29th, 2012, 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by shootist Took my SR22P to range today for the first time along with a box of Winchester bulk in 333 pack would fire first round out of clip and jam every time, started to think what a piece of crap pistol I just bought | Had the same issue with the same ammo. Also had issues with CCI Blazers. Didn't notice anything odd about the Win333s, but the Blazers actually felt sticky.
Ran mini-mags and other copper coated rounds through with no problem.
Ultimately found my SR22 would run both the "crap" rounds and most anything else through through if I ran the pistol slightly wet (oiled), and made certain to load the mags under pressure (not using the slide button). The ramp, mag, and I guess the rounds themselves were then all slippery enough to feed without malfunction.
"Lightly oiling" the entire pistol as recommended in the manual seems to allow feeding at least 400-500 of those "problem" rounds without issues. I've never pushed further without cleaning. YMMV.
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June 30th, 2012, 05:22 AM
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My Sig Sauer Mosquito and my daughter's Walther P-22 will only cycle CCI Mini-Mags reliably. Everything else just doesn't have enough punch.
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June 30th, 2012, 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by shootist Stingers the ones that come in that clear plastic box? I'm guessing the ammo your calling Federal red box is the same stuff I'm calling brown box? haven't seen much at Walmart lately either that's where I got mine about 3 years back good thing I still have 4 more boxes, has anyone tryed the bulk CCI? my brother inlaw tells me that works best in his MKIII target, think I'll find a box of that and try it. | Cci stingers and CCI mimi mags both come in clear plastic boxes. Stingers come 50 to a box and Mimi mags come 100 to a box. Both boxes areabout the same price. So the Stingers are twice the price of Mimi mags.
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June 30th, 2012, 08:58 AM
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Winchester quality control on their .22's has been terrible lately. Most revolvers will digest the stuff, but semi-autos hate it. We have been buying Federal when available, but other than Winchester, the only thing available has been Remington which works okay. Old .22s from Winchester shoot fine, if you have any at the bottom of your ammo drawer.
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June 30th, 2012, 09:02 AM
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Looked through some of my ammo cans and found some of my old Winchester bulk ammo I use to buy at Walmart 5+ years ago @ $11.99 for 555 round bulk pack it was XPERT ammo, not even the same stuff they sell now at near double the price, they pulled a big switcheroo on us lower grade ammo for more money, going to take some of this old Xpert Winchester ammo next time to the range have a feeling it will shoot just fine in my SR22P.
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June 30th, 2012, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Twoboxer Had the same issue with the same ammo. Also had issues with CCI Blazers. Didn't notice anything odd about the Win333s, but the Blazers actually felt sticky.
Ran mini-mags and other copper coated rounds through with no problem.
Ultimately found my SR22 would run both the "crap" rounds and most anything else through through if I ran the pistol slightly wet (oiled), and made certain to load the mags under pressure (not using the slide button). The ramp, mag, and I guess the rounds themselves were then all slippery enough to feed without malfunction.
"Lightly oiling" the entire pistol as recommended in the manual seems to allow feeding at least 400-500 of those "problem" rounds without issues. I've never pushed further without cleaning. YMMV. | Thanks for the heads up on the CCI blazer's was going to try a box, I'll save my money by not buying them.
Range master came buy while I was shooting and says most 22's that are picky with ammo will usally shoot anything once they get broke in good, he might know more than most of us, since he's there every day watching people shoot?, he also said the gun he see's people having the most trouble is the Sig Mosquito, said it was the most ammo picky gun he has ever seen.
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June 30th, 2012, 09:46 AM
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My SR22 seems the opposite of your guys. Mine won't feed the federals reliably. Had some bulk Winchester in the white box and those worked great no problems at all. Just got some American eagle I'll have to see how those work soon.
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June 30th, 2012, 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by gmsoapy Hi shootest
Right now a little hard to find around Vegas. I bought my wife an SR22 and liked it so much I bought one for myself.Made the mistake of letting her shoot my MKIII target. That lead to her getting a Stainless MKIII target. | gmsoapy-- which do you prefer? the sr22 or the mark lll? i'm looking at both of those right now, and sportsmans warehouse here in vegas seems to have some good prices (though admittedly, i haven't looked at those 2 rugers at other LGSs).
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June 30th, 2012, 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by shootist Thanks for the heads up on the CCI blazer's was going to try a box, I'll save my money by not buying them. | If my own experience is any measure, they *will* shoot fine in a wet pistol (or see below lol). Quote:
Originally Posted by shootist Range master came buy while I was shooting and says most 22's that are picky with ammo will usally shoot anything once they get broke in good, he might know more than most of us, since he's there every day watching people shoot? | You're prolly right . . . by the time we learn our own individual tricks the weapon is probably broken in lol. But I *can* tell you with absolute certainty that oil on the ramp and the lips of the magazine did allow the sticky Blazers to feed. And, after over 2000 rounds, I will still get the occasional 2nd round FTL with Blazers if I run the gun too long without cleaning/oiling.
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