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Old May 7th, 2012, 04:40 PM   #1
 
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new sp101 .22 or new s&w 617

If this needs to be moved to rimfire or other will the mods please do so. But I would like to know which one you would pick and why. I am getting one of these tomorrow. I'm leaning more toward the 617 because everyone and their mother says its a target gun vs a plinker (although it will be used for both) but I like faily decent accuracy from my pistols . but I like the built like a tank rugers. I love all things rimfire and show no loyalty to one brand or another. only loyalty to a firearm that works and is reliable. thanks for the help . Brian



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Well you know that getting both is the real answer here! I have a 617 with the 6" barrel and it is built like a tank. I will eventually get a 617 4" and probably the Ruger also. If you can only get one, get the S&W 617 with a
4" barrel. I would think either one will make you happy.
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My first thought is S&W but I'm not sure why. I don't seem to own any. I don't think it's the price, it must be I just like the Ruger brand. Anyway, the sp101 22LR is really nice. It's accurate and it's built well. Thousands of rounds through it and no problems.
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The 617 is on a midsize frame and the sp on a small albeit heavy small frame. If i were target shooting mostly I would go with the 617. If I were going to use the gun as a trail gun and target I would go with the sp101.
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I haven't owned, fired or probably even seen either model so that make me a perfect internet expert. What I have done is own an SP101 in 357 mag for several years, put thousands of rounds thru it so when I get old and feeble and have to sell my firearms off to pay for the hot nurses I will still have the SP101.
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Thanks, I'm going to go with the ruger, I really like the small size. I know there are grips-o-plenty for the 617 to get a smaller grip but I have never handled one but have held an sp101. thanks again, i'll post picks and a report when I pick it up. Brian
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Have owned both and they really are completely different guns in the way they handle and the way they shoot.

The SP101 is a trail gun and a plinker, at best, and will never be a gun that can keep up with larger frame revolvers like the 617 in the scoring department. I had to fight to get my SP101 22LR to group even 2" at 50 feet, from a rest and I was constantly plagued by flyers. Maybe I just got a lemon, but small frame and light weight are not a a good formula for accurate shooting. Being primarily a target shooter, that's why I sold my SP101 and replaced it with the Single Ten. It puts the SP to shame on targets. From a rest at 50 feet, the ST will easily shoot 1" and under, all ten rounds, no flyers and has already given me groups I could never get with the SP.

The 617 that I used to own was even better. It could shoot under an inch from a rest at 50 feet all day long. A 617 is truly a target grade revolver. Not sure what your standards are for accuracy, but if accuracy is important to you, you will be much happier with the 617.
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The SP 101 can not come anywhere close to being the gun the S&W 617 is when it comes to quality and target shooting
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One more thing ... you can easily put a scope or red dot on a 617 since it is drilled and tapped for a scope base. No one makes a scope base for an SP101. It will be a gunsmith custom job all the way to even add a red dot. You are stuck with the iron sights
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Never even held the Ruger, but I have the 4" S&W 617 10 shot, & wouldn't trade it for anything else I've ever seen or shot. Absolutely great little all around .22LR, with superb accuracy.








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Thanks to everyone for the help. I did buy the sp101, I know its in a different league as the 617. It will be a semi trail gun, more of a camping gun. I like reactive targets more than paper but it is nice to see what its capable of. hopefully I dont get a lemon. Ill have pics and report by sat or sun. thanks . Brian
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Congrats on the purchase. I look forward to the pics and range report.
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thanks terry, its the most expensive gun I ever bought. I hope she performs well.
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Thanks to everyone for the help. I did buy the sp101, I know its in a different league as the 617. It will be a semi trail gun, more of a camping gun. I like reactive targets more than paper but it is nice to see what its capable of. hopefully I dont get a lemon. Ill have pics and report by sat or sun. thanks . Brian
Good decision.
The SP101 is a good all around revolver. The revolver carries well, is light and balances well. Its not a target revolver. Was never built to be one. I have one and like it overall. I am still breaking in the trigger in double action and its getting better.
The S&W 617 is a great target revolver. But in my opinion the best double action target 22 is the S&W K22 6 inch. This revolver is also called the model 17. I have experience with the model 17 and have never found a 22 thats more accurate.
North County Gal, I have heard nothing but great things on the single ten. I have a older single six 6.5 inch barrel and the accuracy is excellent. Close to a S&W model 17.
Again Brian, congrats on your new SP101. You will like the revolver just like I do.
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I think if Ruger came out with a GP100 in 22LR we would have a closer comparison. The size, weight and geometry would be similar. I would definitely buy one too!

But, you all have me thinking about the Single Ten now.
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