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Old July 20th, 2011, 07:34 AM   #1
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22/45 threaded barrel/suppressor

So this has popped up on my list of wants. I already have a MKIII Target, but I think a 22/45 with an YHM suppressor would be


with (ignore the Walther and imagine the 22/45)


Anyone own one or ever shot one? I know it would be a ATF Form 4 and $200 tax stamp and all that legalese, but still, I think it would be worth it!




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No, but I'd love to have one too. That would be a fun little package for sure...
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Ditto, don't have one, would love to own one. As you have probably already explored it; what does a suppressor cost (the actual unit, not the tax stamp etc). I have no idea if they are $100-$1000 or what range in between.
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It looks like MSRP for the rimfire mite supressor is $280. Not cheap, but not too pricey either...
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Unfortunately illegal over here, same as BP vests.
Looks neat though.
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The actual cost of the supressor isn't too bad at $280, but then you have the $200 tax stamp, and if you set up a "trust" there is the cost of that. My class three guy says he knows a lawyer that all he does is gun trusts for a one time fee of $600. So, if you wanted to put a couple of people in the trust and have them pitch in the price would drop. Other wise, alone you're looking at $1080 + sales tax. Once the trust is open, then one could buy all sorts of fun class 3 items, full auto trigger group for an AR anyone...?
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State laws differ. For example, in Missouri, I believe one needs a valid federal license.
C&R license will do.
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I bought a YHM stainless Mite around the first of May. It went pending with the ATF on the 26th of May. The wait is a killer, I should be getting my stamp in the next couple few weeks.

I'll be using it on a 22/45, two 10/22's, Glenfield 25, and a CMMG AR with a 22 upper.

Paying $600 for a trust is crazy. Most people do them their selves with Quicken Will Maker.
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^^^ Thats what I thought. Did you just make your own? I'd like to do it, but in a less costly way.
I think one can just submit fingerprint cards and they do a super background check and skip the whole will/trust thing, but with the trust, you only have to do that once.
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Can someone quickly explain this "trust" thing? I have been trying to figure out all of the ins and outs involved in purchasing a suppressor.

I thought the same way WooD did - to make sure it could be used on a variety of different .22s, as the cost is up there.

WooD, does the thread pattern on the suppressor you bought match the barrels of all of those weapons, or did you have to buy adapters?
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^^^ Thats what I thought. Did you just make your own? I'd like to do it, but in a less costly way.
I think one can just submit fingerprint cards and they do a super background check and skip the whole will/trust thing, but with the trust, you only have to do that once.
I never knew about the trust until after I bought my silencer. I hang out on the Silencer Talk forum, and they say it's really simple to do a trust yourself.

With a trust you don't have to have the CLEO in your area sign off on your form, plus no fingerprint cards, or picture. You can also add your family on your trust. I'm not positive how that works as far as family, but from what I've read, if you die, anyone on the trust can take possession of your class 3 weapons, and they can also use them without you being present.

Once you set up a trust, it is good forever, or until they change the law.

The main reason a lot of people go with a trust is because the CLEO in their area wont sign off on any class 3 weapons. Just because you can own one in that state or town, doesn't mean the CLEO has to sign off on one. That entirely up to him. I have no worries with sign offs. I had my prints done at the jail, and then went to the Sheriffs office to drop off my paper work. He was at lunch, but before I even got home, they called and said it was ready to pick up.

I've heard some sheriffs will wait 90 days to sign off, want to interview you, and a few even charge between $50 to $100 just to sigh the back of the form.



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Can someone quickly explain this "trust" thing? I have been trying to figure out all of the ins and outs involved in purchasing a suppressor.

I thought the same way WooD did - to make sure it could be used on a variety of different .22s, as the cost is up there.

WooD, does the thread pattern on the suppressor you bought match the barrels of all of those weapons, or did you have to buy adapters?
The only OUT is the wait. I just called the ATF, and mine is still pending.

Every 22 silencer I've seen in the US has standard 1/2x28 threads, the same used on the M16/AR15. All the 22's with factory threaded barrels are 1/2x28. I had 3 different 10/22 barrels, and the Glenfield 25 threaded at a local machine shop for $50 each. My 22/45, and CMMG 22 upper both came with 1/2x28 threads.

You can buy adapters if you have an odd barrel thread.

As far as cost goes, you pretty much get what you pay for. I bought a SS Mite because that's what the class 3 dealer had in stock. I could have had them order something else, but then your waiting up to 12 weeks before it can transfer from one dealer to another. You have to actually buy the silencer before any forms can be sent in. They did have a couple Gemtechs in stock, but you cant take them apart to clean. On a 22 silencer you really want to be able to clean it.

My total cost for the silencer, and $200 tax stamp was around $525.
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I'm thinking hard about buying a copy of Quicken Will Maker 2008 off Amazon, and doing the trust.

The new version of Quicken doesn't include trusts. When I read the reviews on the new version, someone said you can do a trust, but you have to pay an extra $1.00, and do it online. If you screw something up, supposedly you cant go back and fix it, you have to pay another buck, and start over. 2008 is the version most of the people I know used.

From what I understand it's kinda like Turbo Tax, you just fill in the blanks.

I'd like to register one of my AR lowers as a SBR, and sometime in the near future get a FA Mac10, and a 22 conversion kit. I've been checking prices on full auto weapons, and the Mac is the only thing remotely in my budget.
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I bought the 2011 deluxe edition and it came with the trust maker. and dont get a yhm 22 can, there are quit a few that are better in that price range, also no need to buy a top shelf suppressor either(all though they are good) .the tac 65 is good, thompson machine makes some very nice budget cans. stainless is the best material for ease of cleaning, but aluminum is fine.for aluminum you just have to clean more often and clean carefully. some use a media blaster with baking soda to clean the aluminum ones. ps do lots of research or you will regret your purchase . lastly silencer talk is the best place for research, thats where I did mine . its alot of money for a lifetime purchase so take your time. Brian

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