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Old April 11th, 2017, 06:17 AM   #1
 
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Ruger Mk IV

I see the new MKIVs are out. MSRP is a staggering 550 to 750 depending on configuration. It looks like they made it easier to take down but is it really worth that kind of money? WOW. I paid 200 for my SS MK2. Its as good today as it was when I bought it 20 years ago. Thoughts on the new high price Ruger.



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Nobody pays MSRP. You can get the Blued model for around $350-$390 OTD, the Hunter for around $600 OTD. So close to the same price as the Mark III's were.
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I see the new MKIVs are out. MSRP is a staggering 550 to 750 depending on configuration. It looks like they made it easier to take down but is it really worth that kind of money? WOW. I paid 200 for my SS MK2. Its as good today as it was when I bought it 20 years ago. Thoughts on the new high price Ruger.
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To me it surely is-- I paid $7,800 for a new car 20 years ago, new cars cost much more now.

I figure if I save 2 hours a year in cleaning time (probably way more than that) that is 40 hours of labor over 20 years so at a messily $10.00 an hour that equals $400.00 saved.

The price of the Mark 4 gun spread out over 20 years is next to nothing. I'm much more bothered by the price increase in .22 ammo as 20 years ago I was paying 89 cents for a box of 50 .

Or put another way-- in 2037 someone is going to be posting here saying that "I paid $610.00 for a Ruger Mark 4 back in 2017 & now they are over $1500.00 dollars, is the new mark 8 worth $1500.00 dollars?
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I understand about the principals of inflation. I did not post about my MK2 for 200 20 years ago for the price. My point was that the MK2 is still as good as any Ruger 22 pistol and shoots as well today as it did back then. So why buy or pay more for the MKIV? I checked GB and MK3s go for arond 299 give or take. If they are more than that they either do not sell or have other addons that make it worth more. My main point was why buy the MKIV when you can buy the MK2 or 3 for less?
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My wife bought me a blue Target model MKIV for Christmas and paid $400. Is it worth buying? Not just yes, but *ell yes? This is the sweetest pistol I own. I owned a MKII for 20 years and it was a great gun, but I hated it every time I had to clean it. The MKIV is a piece of cake to take down, clean and reassemble. You get what you pay for.
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I paid $560 for my Hunter IV.
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Not worth the extra money IMO. I have a LIGHT MK3 along with my MK2. is it a pain of a learning curve sure. but do it three or four times and its really no problem. For me I would not pay for it. In a few years they will be selling for a lot less once the market is flooded. Also with Trump in gun are not selling that well. I see shops cutting prices and guns not selling on GB.
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At least two guys at the range where I shoot have recently bought Mark IV's. Not only do they love them, but everyone else who has tried them does, too. Ruger has a winner here.
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Not worth the extra money IMO.
Not a fair comparison in my book comparing the price of a pistol you purchased 20 years ago to the current model.

I didn't own a Ruger .22 pistol until January and a new $200 WW Mk II wasn't available. I paid $430 for my MkIV
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Not a fair comparison in my book comparing the price of a pistol you purchased 20 years ago to the current model.

I didn't own a Ruger .22 pistol until January and a new $200 WW Mk II wasn't available. I paid $430 for my MkIV
Not comparing the price. My only point was the new ruger is no better other than ease of cleaning than the guns built 20 years ago. I paid under 300 for my MK3 and its as good as a MK4 so unless your not very good with mechanics why pay more for a MK4? If you want to waste money go for it.
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It is better. Ruger incorporated various upgrades to improve the platform. The biggest improvement was the takedown which is invaluable to beginners and experienced shooters alike.

Also, it's not 1990 anymore. Inflation has come.

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I really wanted a new Mark IV myself, but couldn't justify the price my local store was charging. They wanted $565 for the stainless version ($485 for the blued), which I thought was rather steep for a .22 plinker pistol. I thought gun prices were supposed to be falling these days?

Anyway, I went to another store that had a Mark III 22/45 distributor exclusive model on sale for $299 and went that route instead. The one I got has a somewhat ugly digital camo frame, but it's got the target bull barrel and it's a sweet shooter. I know Mark IIIs are harder to clean, but I'm willing to put the time in and learn. I felt the savings I got was worth it and I really love my new Mark III 22/45.

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If I were to give letter grades to the mark pistols based on NIB configuration and design quality, they would receive:

RST/MK1 = C
MK2 = B+
MK3 = D
MK4 = B

Can they be upgraded/modified to be better? Sure.

For my money, I'd still buy the MK2. I shouldn't have to spend additional time and/or $$ to get them up to snuff. The MK4 is close, but I like blued steel frames - not aluminum. Pushbutton takedown doesn't matter to me at all. I take down my MK2/MK3 models in a few seconds, as is.

I second the OP. Not worth the extra $$.
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I picked up a Mark IV 22/45 lite about a month ago so I can give my Mark III to my son ( again ) I borrowed it to see if I liked shooting Steel Challenge matches with the .22.

It's a much better gun. Especially in take down and reassembling. I now enjoy cleaning the Mark IV after every match. It takes a few seconds to take apart, run a brush through the barrel and then patches until they come out clean. Putting it together takes another 5 seconds. I love that.

I paid $450 for the Mark IV. I probably could have found it cheaper if I waited but 4 stores here in the valley had it for from $450 to $480. I even got a discount because I was a member of the range.
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I picked up a Mark IV 22/45 lite about a month ago so I can give my Mark III to my son ( again ) I borrowed it to see if I liked shooting Steel Challenge matches with the .22.

It's a much better gun. Especially in take down and reassembling. I now enjoy cleaning the Mark IV after every match. It takes a few seconds to take apart, run a brush through the barrel and then patches until they come out clean. Putting it together takes another 5 seconds. I love that.

I paid $450 for the Mark IV. I probably could have found it cheaper if I waited but 4 stores here in the valley had it for from $450 to $480. I even got a discount because I was a member of the range.
Quicker to clean for some I can buy. Better gun I highly doubt it.
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