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Old April 4th, 2017, 06:34 AM   #1
 
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22/45 stove pipes, done many times but help needed

Ok new Mark III 22/45 stainless, I have a 22/45 blue lite also,it never had a issue, this new pistol is a piece of crap.

I have done every mod except the VQ extractor and bending the ejector towards the breach.

after all other easy mods the best anti stove pipe thing I did was remove the LCI metal piece from the LCI. 90% of stove pipes went away.

I have a VQ extractor coming this week.

I noticed the ejector is very tight to my the bottom of the bolt in the new stainless mark III 22/45 compared to my 22/45 lite, could that be causing excessive drag? could I file it down some on the top and back slope.???? are their any other suggestions that ive never seen, cause ive done everything else ive seen on the net .

It went from 2 stove pipe jams per mag to 3 stove pipes per 50 rounds.

my older 22/45 lite with every mod made, might do it once per 500,if that, even with no mods it never did it to noticeable amount.



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Three suggestions:

1) Install the VQ extractor.

2) Avoid SV ammo for a while. Use only good quality HV like CCI Mini-Mags. At least for several hundred rounds.

3) Lock the bolt back and run a fingernail down the recoil spring rod. Is it a little "gritty", or very smooth? You probably need to lightly sand and polish it. Clean it good after and apply a light coat of gun oil.

These things should get it running very well in a short time.
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Havent messed with the roil spring rod, ill check that out.

Ive tried the HV ammo ran stingers and CCI MINI MAGS , same issue.

Will put the VQ extractor in this week.
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Its had atleast 1000 rounds threw it already.
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I had a few FTE. Installed an Eagle's Talon extractor and most went away. I agree with shooting a bunch of Mini Mags to break everything in.
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Dang, sorry to hear about your troubles. I just got my 22/45 Mark III about a month ago (it was on sale... didn't want to shell out for a Mark IV, which my local store had a large markup on). I've only put about 200ish rounds through it, and so far it's been 100%. I really like it. I have only used CCI mini-mags and Winchester white box plated/hp so far. Thanks for sharing the info and I will keep an eye out for the same issue on mine.
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From what I've heard, the 22/45 can be a little finicky about ammo. I usually shoot CCI in mine, but recently cracked open a box a Federal bulk ammo. Every magazine had at least one failure, to the point where I thought the gun was somehow broken.

Took it down, cleaned it, took it back to the range with CCI, and it performed flawlessly.

This past weekend I took it out again, but this time with a fresh box of Federal bulk ammo. Much to my surprise, it performed flawlessly. I figure that first box of Federal was just a funky batch.
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agree with the idea try good quality hv ammo. maybe try plated.
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My new VQ extractor will be here today, if this doesn't work then its going to RUGER. I have done EVERY OTHER MOD AND TRIED HV AMMO FOR 500 ROUNDS!!!!!! , I will post my finding this afternoon. Wish me luck.LOL
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My new VQ extractor will be here today, if this doesn't work then its going to RUGER. I have done EVERY OTHER MOD AND TRIED HV AMMO FOR 500 ROUNDS!!!!!! , I will post my finding this afternoon. Wish me luck.LOL
How did the pistol work when new before you did all the mods?
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I tend to do no mods until I know things work well. If they don't I call the manufacturer, I'm not a fan of fixing what doesn't work from the factory unless it is minor.
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how did it work

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How did the pistol work when new before you did all the mods?

It was crap, but im not one to send it back for a month ,I like to fix my own things if I can , and learning everything about my firearms is something I like to know and do .
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My new VQ extractor will be here today, if this doesn't work then its going to RUGER. I have done EVERY OTHER MOD AND TRIED HV AMMO FOR 500 ROUNDS!!!!!! , I will post my finding this afternoon. Wish me luck.LOL
I installed the VQ extractor and the VQ LCI block out plate, I had removed the tab from the plastic one but I wanted the side of the gun all silver and easier to clean on the inside of the breach , so I swapped it to a flush one. .

NO MORE STOVE PIPES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So here is all that I did.

Polished the bolt and interior of the breach.
Modified the magazines
Installed VQ magazine disconnect removal bushing
Polished the recoil spring rod.
Polished feed ramp.
Installed VQ extractor
Installed VQ LCI delete
Shot 500 HV rounds CCI Mini Mags

Total cost $35$

Now it has zero stove pipes with any ammo HV or SV

Im happy now , but pistols should not need anything from me to make them function properly . My mark III 22/45 lite cobalt had zero issues from the factory.
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The original extractor looked like crap on the entire surface of it except the claw. it had terrible jagged edges from the stamping process and they were never really cleaned up after stamping before install by the ruger tech.
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Congrats!!! We knew you could do it!

The only mod I make to new extractors is to round the sharp point off the bottom corner of the hook, like this:



This prevents feeding problems where the round gets anchored to the bottom of the bolt (more common with shorter ammo, like HP). Keep it in mind, should you start seeing feeding problems.
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