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Old February 23rd, 2017, 06:29 AM   #1
 
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Blueing issue on MK IV?

Hi, All,

The owner of a new, blued MK IV target pistol wrote on a forum a couple of weeks ago (I can't find the posting again) that the blueing was very thin on his pistol and that rust was coming through the blueing on the barrel. Has anyone found that to be the case on their new, blued MK IV?

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Old February 23rd, 2017, 06:49 AM   #2
 
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bluing was thin? how did he determine that?
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Old February 23rd, 2017, 07:08 AM   #3
 
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"bluing was thin? how did he determine that?"

He said rust was coming through the bluing.
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Well bluing is a form of controlled rusting it is there to keep the metal from rusting, wait does that sound right? Any blued gun will indeed rust contact Ruger and ask to e-mail them pics to see what they think. I have owned guns in the past that seemed to develop rust if you even looked at them funny. I currently own a new Mark IV but bought the stainless version so I cant help with a comparison....
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In my experience with blued guns I have found that they can rust if the conditions are right. For example, I have a 1976 S&W M39-2 that shows a little rust in one spot on the slide every now and again. I make sure I oil it before I put it away, that keeps it nice, but if I forget and the conditions are right, I get the little rust area.
The conditions that cause rust are easy to figure out, humidity and/or salt in the air, like when you live near the ocean. Don't handle the gun a lot before you put it away, acids from some peoples skin can eat right into the bluing. If the gun was handled in a store a lot before it was sold, someone with high acid skin may have damaged the bluing.

To better understand what happened to the original guy with the problem, we'd have to know a lot more about the gun's past, and how/where it was stored/handled, etc.

I'd like to hear what Ruger says about the rust.

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I was handling a new Mark IV in my local gun shop last weekend and I noticed that the bluing did look a bit light compared to what I am used to seeing. I don't know, I guess you can't really expect a superb deep bluing job these days, unless you pony up for it. I generally prefer a blued finish myself, but they require a lot of attention/babying to prevent corrosion, especially where I live. I intend to get a Mark IV soon, but I've decided I want the stainless version since I think it looks better than the blued version.
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I was handling a new Mark IV in my local gun shop last weekend and I noticed that the bluing did look a bit light compared to what I am used to seeing. I don't know, I guess you can't really expect a superb deep bluing job these days, unless you pony up for it. I generally prefer a blued finish myself, but they require a lot of attention/babying to prevent corrosion, especially where I live. I intend to get a Mark IV soon, but I've decided I want the stainless version since I think it looks better than the blued version.
Why don't you call ruger customer service and ask them. Make sure you make it clear that you do not yet own it, you just want to know what to expect. And welcome to the forum, there are lots of nice people here and many of them have consistent real info to pass on.
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I've often read that newer blued handguns from Ruger tend to have bluing that leaves a bit to be desired.

In general, blued guns from most manufacturers are not nearly as nice as they were in the past. I've heard that it's cost-cutting. I've heard that it's due to environmental constraints on using certain chemical processes. I'm not sure what to believe.

Still, a brand new gun should not be rusting. If I bought a new gun, and it was already showing some rust, I'd either try to get the store to give me a new, or I'd contact the manufacturer and send it back to them.

Meanwhile, I try to make sure that my guns are always wiped down with a soft cloth that has been misted with oil before they are put away. Guns that aren't going to be used any time soon get waxed before being stored away.
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I don't know if it's your issue, but as a metal worker, some people are "rusters". Meaning, as mentioned before, that the oils and chemical make up of them cause oxides to happen on carbon steel.
You can see full hand prints on sheet that occur after handling of the materials in my shop.
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I have a new Mark IV Target and find the factory bluing on it to be beautiful. No complaints from me and FWIW, I've been buying Rugers since the early 70's.
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I think part of the blueing issue is cost cutting. I don't think they treat them as much as they used to, so the bluing is thinner and has a tendency to wear through faster, or show rust and/or fingerprints quicker. I may be wrong.
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