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Old January 9th, 2017, 04:04 PM   #1
 
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Dry firing Mark IV

I have a Mark III and the manual says OK to dry fire. Just bought a Mark IV and no mention of dry firing. Any opinions?



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I have a Mark III and the manual says OK to dry fire. Just bought a Mark IV and no mention of dry firing. Any opinions?
I have read a few reviews on the MK IV where they say its okay to dry fire. I would call Ruger to make sure.
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I suspect the MKIV manual doesn't mention dry firing because the pistol must be cocked for disassembly/cleaning. This is opposite the case for all previous Mark pistols, which needed the MSH removed first.

The bolt/firing pin/stop are set up the same. So dry firing is not an issue - just not the best practice IMO. If the stop pin fails for any reason, you get a dinged up chamber mouth. I always use a drywall anchor for a snap-cap when I can.
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Regardless of what the manual says, it is not a good idea to dry fire any rimfire fire arm.( The exception being to de-cock.)

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Regardless of what the manual says, it is not a good idea to dry fire any rimfire fire arm.( The exception being to de-cock.)
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Any basis on those opinions guys, or just following old wives tales? In reality, dry firing harms nothing on MOST guns. If it is a problem, it's always pointed out in the manual
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Regardless of what the manual says, it is not a good idea to dry fire any rimfire fire arm.( The exception being to de-cock.)
With the these, and most similarly designed pistols, you can pull the bolt back a touch and pull the trigger, so the firing pin hits nothing.
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they do make 22 snap caps
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they do make 22 snap caps
Yes, they are called #4-6-8 x 7/8" drywall anchors, and they feed just fine from the magazine of a MkII.
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With the these, and most similarly designed pistols, you can pull the bolt back a touch and pull the trigger, so the firing pin hits nothing.
Not very easily. My testing shows that if the Mark pistol bolt is back only 0.100", the disconnector is down so it can't (dry) fire. Snap caps are the best way to prepare for disassembly.
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With the these, and most similarly designed pistols, you can pull the bolt back a touch and pull the trigger, so the firing pin hits nothing.
I'm no expert, but I'm pretty sure most manufacturers strive to have their guns NOT fire when out of battery.
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Any basis on those opinions guys, or just following old wives tales? In reality, dry firing harms nothing on MOST guns. If it is a problem, it's always pointed out in the manual
https://www.americanhunter.org/artic...-rimfire-guns/
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I recognize this is "apples & oranges" [or more accurately Ruger & Sig], but the following is posted on Sig's FAQ's:

"Is it safe to dry-fire my pistol?
It is safe to dry-fire our center fire pistols. You would want to use a snap cap or plug if extensive dry-firing is done. Always count your dry-firing in your live fire count to be sure all springs and pins are in top condition. DO NOT intentionally dry-fire any rim fire pistol such as the Mosquito, .22LR conversions or Classic Pistols." [emphasis in original]

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I've seen a small ding in the chamber mouth of my S&W Victory and a used Buckmark I purchased. That's from random dry firing, nothing bad but I always use the aforementioned dry wall anchors to avoid further damage, and they do feed nicely in my rimfire mags.

As for Rugers, I've dry fired the daylights out of them..Mark II is 25 yrs old... and they do no damage to the chamber. That's how the bolt is designed, from what I've seen and read. And since they are designed to be fired before disassembled, I presume that's why the Firing pin is designed not to hit the chamber.
*I didn't know that about the new Mark IV's staying cocked to disassemble.

So I'm gonna keep doing that, but that's just me. For my non Rugers, I'm considering just taking the firing pin out if I'm gonna dry fire with no range plans for a long period of time.
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