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Old January 2nd, 2017, 08:18 AM   #1
 
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Thinking about a silencer until ...

I started seeing all the BS you have to go through to build one. I have a 22 bolt-action with a threaded barrel and I was going to use a NAPA fuel filter for it. From what I see they work pretty good for less than 100 bucks.

Seems like the more I read the more confused I get. I guess this is what the intent from the ATF is

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Seems like the more I read the more confused I get. I guess this is what the intent from the ATF is
Yes indeed Pepi, that's the name of the game. All done on purpose to discourage. Uncle Sam doesn't want that $200 dollars, they don't want you doing it at all.
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Hopefully Trump will follow through on his promises and sign the hearing protection act which would remove suppressors from the NFA.
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Hopefully Trump will follow through on his promises and sign the hearing protection act which would remove suppressors from the NFA.
Changing the NFA of 1934 requires The House of Representatives (435 people) + the Senate (100 people) to pass the SAME act and then send that bill to the president.
It could happen but I don't think a bill of that sort is ever going to reach the president's desk.

It makes for a great campaign promise because it sounds good to your audience but at the same time is unlikely to occur.

Presidents don't make laws, Congress does.
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It's not that scary. SilencerShop walks you through the process. AR15.com and other forums help too.

I thought it was scary until I decided to just try it. I purchased one last week. Not scary at all. Just expensive.
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First thing to do is get them legal in all 50 states!
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Changing the NFA of 1934 requires The House of Representatives (435 people) + the Senate (100 people) to pass the SAME act and then send that bill to the president.
It could happen but I don't think a bill of that sort is ever going to reach the president's desk.

It makes for a great campaign promise because it sounds good to your audience but at the same time is unlikely to occur.

Presidents don't make laws, Congress does.
Though the rules change from time to time it does not require all 435 congressmen and 100 Senators to pass a bill. Depending on the type of bill I believe a simple majority is all that's required most of the time. The Republicans have that in the House and Senate. While I'm keenly aware that Presidents don't make law, I wish someone would pass this info on to Obummer and our spineless republican house/senate "leaders". What I said was, I hope Trump signs the act/bill into law. It was proposed last year but didn't go anywhere probably due to the knowledge that Obummer would veto it. It is to be reintroduced this year.

2016 Presidential Election & the Hearing Protection Act
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It's not that scary. SilencerShop walks you through the process. AR15.com and other forums help too.

I thought it was scary until I decided to just try it. I purchased one last week. Not scary at all. Just expensive.
+1 on the SilencerShop. They do all the work. I just wish they could skip me to the head of the wait line.
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Though the rules change from time to time it does not require all 435 congressmen and 100 Senators to pass a bill. Depending on the type of bill I believe a simple majority is all that's required most of the time. The Republicans have that in the House and Senate. While I'm keenly aware that Presidents don't make law, I wish someone would pass this info on to Obummer and our spineless republican house/senate "leaders". What I said was, I hope Trump signs the act/bill into law. It was proposed last year but didn't go anywhere probably due to the knowledge that Obummer would veto it. It is to be reintroduced this year.

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I'm well aware that a bill doesn't require support from all of the members of congress in order to pass. My point is that a lot of people have to agree on a specific topic just to get the bill on the president's desk.
It's unlikely Trump would veto a bill that reduced the scope of the NFA but it's even more unlikely that such a bill would ever reach the president's desk.

Despite republican control of both houses, a bill dealing with the reduction of gun control wouldn't "sail" through Congress. Many republican's from districts that aren't strongly conservative would be hesitant to vote for such a bill. Their seats aren't that secure and they know it.

Republican control of Congress makes it unlikely that we will see new gun control legislation but that republican control (particularly in the Senate) probably isn't strong enough to repeal existing gun control.
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If anybody is thinking that because Republicans have the majority, that we are going to get anything of substance done, they are in la la land.

While I hope and pray that they take an offensive type mindset, and instead of trying for 4-8 years of just defeating liberal BS, they actually propose well written, and easily understood laws (with feel good names, so snowflakes won't have mental break downs).

We need to employ Democrat tactics of naming things that are 1% of what the bill actually does.

'The universal public safety act" i.e. 50 state reciprocity of CCWs

"The metropolitan noise abatement and nuisance reduction act" i.e. Get suppressors off the NFA list.

The positives: The people elected a man whom does not care about party lines, but what is right

The Negatives: The vast majority of Rs in the house and senate are gutless cowards that will vote based on whats is best for them personally to get re-elected and stay in power.
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2ndGen, While I'm amused by some of your legislative titles (the metropolitan noise abatement and nuisance reduction act - That's GOOD ) I think the issue will come down to the expenditure of political capital.

The really big issues such as modifying or even repealing Obama Care will require a unified republican front and some democrat defectors in order to achieve a meaningful bill. Republican members of Congress who have secure seats from conservative districts can afford to make bold moves without fear of losing their seats. Members of Congress that don't have that security (and there are a LOT of districts/states across America that fall in that category) will have to expend their political capital carefully.

Making compromises in order to achieve good legislation isn't a sign of weakness, it is a sign of intelligence. You bend a little to get what you want on the important issues. If you squander that opportunity in order to "Stand on principal" and then LOSE YOUR SEAT TO A DEMOCRAT - What good have you done for our cause?

A little compromise to get what you want can be a good thing and it can still be made on principal. How many Americans voted for Trump in order to defeat Hillary even though they didn't like Trump ?? Not all compromise requires the abandonment of what you stand for.
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2ndGen, While I'm amused by some of your legislative titles (the metropolitan noise abatement and nuisance reduction act - That's GOOD ) I think the issue will come down to the expenditure of political capital.

The really big issues such as modifying or even repealing Obama Care will require a unified republican front and some democrat defectors in order to achieve a meaningful bill. Republican members of Congress who have secure seats from conservative districts can afford to make bold moves without fear of losing their seats. Members of Congress that don't have that security (and there are a LOT of districts/states across America that fall in that category) will have to expend their political capital carefully.

Making compromises in order to achieve good legislation isn't a sign of weakness, it is a sign of intelligence. You bend a little to get what you want on the important issues. If you squander that opportunity in order to "Stand on principal" and then LOSE YOUR SEAT TO A DEMOCRAT - What good have you done for our cause?

A little compromise to get what you want can be a good thing and it can still be made on principal. How many Americans voted for Trump in order to defeat Hillary even though they didn't like Trump ?? Not all compromise requires the abandonment of what you stand for.
I totally understand your point. BUT republicans are the only ones bending, ever. We need to make the Dems bend so far they break, and people realize that the liberal way is the one of little intelligence.

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What gets me is the wait time, shop owner I talked to said it was averaging around 8 months!
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What gets me is the wait time, shop owner I talked to sai d it was averaging around 8 months!
Heard the same from a shop owner here in TN. Time to practice patience...
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What gets me is the wait time, shop owner I talked to said it was averaging around 8 months!

My experience is the 8 month estimate is pretty accurate but only applies to the Form 4 approval which starts around the time your Tax Stamp check is cashed. I am at that mark now and hoping to hear something any day.

However, I actually placed my initial order and paid for it nearly ONE YEAR AGO, (Jan 29, 2016) I was notified of the Form 3 approval at about the 2-1/2 month mark.

So be aware, the start to finish process is likely to be longer than 8 month's.
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